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Article #87448Re: Doom 3 vs. Doom 2
From: Raymond Martineau
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 03:24
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 03:24
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:47:53 +0200, nicolas <nicolas.nospam.patrois@online.fr.invalid> wrote: >On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 10:39:17 -0400, Raymond Martineau wrote: > >> D2 only allowed monsters to appear if the player makes a noise, *AND* the >> player crosses over a linedef. As long as no noise is made, no monsters >> will appear. > >> The only case were "at-will" spawning could occurr would be with the >> later iterations of the Doom engine (e.g. Hexen and the source-ports.) > >Are you sure? There are monsters teleporting when you get a key, I >often see that in vanilla compatible wads. That's emulated by having 4 linedefs surrounding the key or object. E1M6 is an example of this - the doors open when you pickup the key. Some players can bypass the trap by carefully inching towards the key - appearently, the linedefs don't cover enough area. E1M9 is another example - you can pickup the items in the northwest room, but you will allow the monsters to teleport in. However, they will not do so unless they hear you shoot somewhere else on the level (thus, pacifist runs could get away with grabbing a health pack.)
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