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Article #86366Re: A $160 Athlon 64 3000+ beats an $825 P4 3.2 EE in Doom 3!
From: Michael-NC
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:07
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:07
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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message news:myARc.6864$va2.6359@fe1.texas.rr.com... > No. I've been saying that transistor for transistor, the AMD core runs > hotter at lower core speeds than Intels. And that would be very incorrect. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2026&p=3 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16952 >And that AMD, rather than work > on that issue at mask level to *allow* use of higher clocks with lower > temps, simply chose to spread into 64 bit. And, as you say, use onboard > memory controller. WTF are you babbling about? "spread into 64 bits" LOL! > Intels Prescott die is 9 nanometer, AMD's 64 bit is 11. The technology > exists to run at higher freqs with lower temps. Intel is still pushing > that end and hasn't yet gone to running the same sort of functions that > AMD uses now. WHEN Intel does, they will have a similar level of > performance per clock, and a much faster clock. Intel is also considering multiple cores because they know that they can't scale the Prescott and have already cancelled Tejas, the so-called P5. Your Prescott is hobbled by current leakage and will _never_ scale. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15760 http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/15/cx_ah_1015tentech.html > And it bothers me that the 64 bit processor is outperforming the 32 bit > processor by only 18%. Even with running under a 32bit opsystem, I'd > think that the AMD 64 should be performing some 30 to 40% faster. Why? It's a 64bit chip that is capable of running 32bit code. 64bit capability has _nothing_ to do with the chips performance. Absolutely Nothing. You really have no clue what you are talking about!
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