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Article #545195Re: Is global leadership a matter of military strength?
From: B'inyamin Cramer
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 07:53
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 07:53
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:45bc4464$0$9775$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "B'inyamin Cramer" <neverayidinsight@nienteayidhere.cam> wrote in message > news:beednfJbsosIhyHYnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >> news:45bc17c1$0$2917$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >>>>>> You may apologise at any time you feel comfortable doing so. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I will, when you say what weapon or weapons USA or Israel ever >>>>> supplied to Saddam. >>>>> >>>>> The weapons were: >>>> >>>> I don't know what weapons they supplied. >>>> >>> >>> Because there weren't any. >> >> Yes there were. Are you calling Reagan and his henchmen liars? Did you >> check out the information I provided about Reagan's comments? Guess not >> huh? >> >> Here they are again. Plenty of information there for you to commence a >> little research. >> >> In 1982 the US decided to back Iraq because Iran was winning on the >> battlefield. Reagan stated the US "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose >> the war to Iran and would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent >> Iraq from losing the war with Iran." >> >> Check Reagan's National Security Decision Directive of June 1982. >> > > This fails to mention any specific actions that the US actually took. And > it clearly excludes weapons, because supply of such to Iraq was illegal at > the time; Reagan's directive explicitly requires that any support be > "legal" (presumably to specifically forbid the supply of weapons). Your statement, dopey, was that the US DID NOT SUPPLY WEAPONS to Iraq. They clearly did. > >> Reagan involved the US in providing Iraq with intelligence, economic aid >> etc. including the provision of weapons. > > I would disagree with much of this, but keeping this on-topic, what > exactly weapons did the US supply to Saddam? Fighters (no, they were > French)? Tanks (no, they were German)? Artillery and SAMs (no, they were > Russian)? Medium range ballistic missiles (no, they were Chinese and North > Korean)? I really don't give a flying fuck whether you disagree or not, dopey. The fact remains that the US did indeed supply weapons to Saddam. END OF STORY. > > What were the weapons? > >> >> >>> >>>> Your original assertion was that no weapons were supplied. I showed you >>>> were wrong. >>>> >>> >>> No you didn't. >> >> Oh yes I did. In the above, which you clearly have difficulty >> understanding. >> >>> >>> The US and Israel supplied weapons to Iran, specifically including 1,000 >>> BGM-71 TOWs. >>> >>> What weapons did they supply to Iraq? >>> >>> >>>> Methinks a gentleman would accept he was wrong, and apologise for his >>>> fuckup. >>>> >>> >>> Me too. I am hoping that if you can't identify a single weapon that the >>> US supplied to Iraq, you actually will apologise. >> >> Your original assertion, dopey, was that the US did not supply weapons to >> Saddam. I proved you wrong. >> >> Deal with it. >> > > How did you prove me wrong? You haven't posted a single "fact" that even > mentions supply of weapons to Iraq. Of course I did, you halfwit. I posted more than enough information for you to follow up with and find your own proof. You'd not believe me if I provided same. > > (I guess you do agree however that the US and Israel supplied weapons to > Iraq's enemy, Iran, at the time?) I've never disputed that, nor was it the topic of the conversation to hand. Now fuck off, grow up, and locate a brain you fucking halfwit.
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 01:53:57 -0600 From: "B'inyamin Cramer" <neverayidinsight@nienteayidhere.cam> Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.singapore,aus.politics,alt.politics.bush,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.israel,alt.abortion,alt.games.diablo,alt.gossip.royalty References: <1169400179.191913.54740@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com> <45baa1e3$0$9770$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <epmdnX1BTO4QOyfYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@giganews.com> <45baaea5$0$8001$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <yZudnQI4BetuICfYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@giganews.com> <45bac5d0$0$23346$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8vOdndEgC6z7WifYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@giganews.com> <45bad302$0$16558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <Ku-dnYT-4rS2QifYnZ2dnUVZ_qunnZ2d@giganews.com> <45baeeac$0$16554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <yJadnRyTFuI6bCfYnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@giganews.com> <45bb06a4$0$5748$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <19Sdnbw7RrtIjibYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@giganews.com> <45bb77de$0$5744$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <jK-dnWHg3IQ6mCHYnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@giganews.com> <45bc1254$0$5748$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <s4adnSdwkaTmiSHYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@giganews.com> <45bc17c1$0$2917$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <beednfJbsosIhyHYnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@giganews.com> <45bc4464$0$9775$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Is global leadership a matter of military strength? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:53:48 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: <6oKdnZPcjssLyyHYnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 111 X-Trace: sv3-7VuBEc9hzZgqudZrbVCiIydpluORn2XRCAyZ9UIDOz9lg2qRG2vLmyrrg0vvw1P5lu2wmLmp3ZgIxHK!LkEgo9qCsazvLrMsYZmzduDg52ZP+LPm3vJtOBZ4z7+yQHO5R4Vnb5rUTbpakEsU4Sc100eA8kNC!aA== X-Complaints-To: ab...@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit