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Re: Is global leadership a matter of military strength?

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From: Peter Webb
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:36
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"B'inyamin Cramer" <neverayidinsight@nienteayidhere.cam> wrote in message 
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> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message 
> news:45bc17c1$0$2917$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> You may apologise at any time you feel comfortable doing so.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will, when you say what weapon or weapons USA or Israel ever supplied 
>>>> to Saddam.
>>>>
>>>> The weapons were:
>>>
>>> I don't know what weapons they supplied.
>>>
>>
>> Because there weren't any.
>
> Yes there were. Are you calling Reagan and his henchmen liars? Did you 
> check out the information I provided about Reagan's comments? Guess not 
> huh?
>
> Here they are again. Plenty of information there for you to commence a 
> little research.
>
> In 1982 the US decided to back Iraq because Iran was winning on the
> battlefield. Reagan stated the US "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose
> the war to Iran and would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent
> Iraq from losing the war with Iran."
>
> Check Reagan's National Security Decision Directive of June 1982.
>

This fails to mention any specific actions that the US actually took. And it 
clearly excludes weapons, because supply of such to Iraq was illegal at the 
time; Reagan's directive explicitly requires that any support be "legal" 
(presumably to specifically forbid the supply of weapons).

> Reagan involved the US in providing Iraq with intelligence, economic aid
> etc. including the provision of weapons.

I would disagree with much of this, but keeping this on-topic, what exactly 
weapons did the US supply to Saddam? Fighters (no, they were French)? Tanks 
(no, they were German)? Artillery and SAMs (no, they were Russian)? Medium 
range ballistic missiles (no, they were Chinese and North Korean)?

What were the weapons?

>
>
>>
>>> Your original assertion was that no weapons were supplied. I showed you 
>>> were wrong.
>>>
>>
>> No you didn't.
>
> Oh yes I did. In the above, which you clearly have difficulty 
> understanding.
>
>>
>> The US and Israel supplied weapons to Iran, specifically including 1,000 
>> BGM-71 TOWs.
>>
>> What weapons did they supply to Iraq?
>>
>>
>>> Methinks a gentleman would accept he was wrong, and apologise for his 
>>> fuckup.
>>>
>>
>> Me too. I am hoping that if you can't identify a single weapon that the 
>> US supplied to Iraq, you actually will apologise.
>
> Your original assertion, dopey, was that the US did not supply weapons to 
> Saddam. I proved you wrong.
>
> Deal with it.
>

How did you prove me wrong? You haven't posted a single "fact" that even 
mentions supply of weapons to Iraq.

(I guess you do agree however that the US and Israel supplied weapons to 
Iraq's enemy, Iran, at the time?)
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