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B'inyamin Cramer wrote:

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> "B J Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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>> B'inyamin Cramer wrote:
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>>> "B J Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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>>>> B'inyamin Cramer wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Iran is the centre around which terrorism revolves."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May or may not be true,
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It certainly is not true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Israel is the catalyst for Islamic terror, and is the centre from 
>>>>> which terrorism arises.
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>>>> Iran-Iraq?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> The 911 Commission was clearly advised by the FBI that the 
>>> motivation behind the attacks of September 11th, were due to US 
>>> pro-israel foreign policy, and the ongoing israel / Palestine conflict.
>>>
>>> This comment did not make it into the official public release of the 
>>> findings.
>>>
>>> WHAT MOTIVATED THE 9/11 HIJACKERS TO ATTACK THE U.S.?
>>>
>> Who knows?
>
>
> The post below tells you exactly what motivated the attackers, you clod.


Maybe. But it doesn't support your claim: "Israel is the catalyst for 
Islamic terror, and is the centre from which terrorism arises"


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>>
>> But why are you raising 911 and ignoring the Iran-Iraq war which has 
>> zip to do with Israel?
>
>
> It has everything to do with israel, you clown. The war between Iraq 
> and Iran was convenient for israel, and they had their pro yid 
> congressmen in the Jewnited States give Saddam all the assistance he 
> needed to attack Iran. That was in the days when the US were quite 
> enamoured of Saddam.

US law forbade any US citizen from supplying weapons to either side. 
Laws are passed by Congress. Congress is elected by the people.

I see that the ad-homs are flying thick and fast now. That's what tends 
to happen when you run out of rational arguments and your basis is 
ideological or race-based, you'll resort to *any* tactic to 'win'.

But if your mind was open, and you truly wanted to learn something, you 
would take new facts on board and not resort to ad-hom or descend into 
name-calling. Therefore, it follows that this debate has ended. Reason: 
You're just another fuckwit.

>
> When the yanks finally wake up to how they've been used and abused by 
> the fucking yids, it's probably going to be too late to repair the 
> damage done.
>
>
>>
>> And what about the attack on the Indian parliament, another event 
>> which had nothing to do with Israel but which was originated and 
>> supported by another member of the axis of evil - one which Bush 
>> forgot to mention.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> US foreign policy bias for Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian 
>>> conflict and US government support for other oppressive regimes in 
>>> the Middle East.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 911 Commission held its twelfth and final public hearing on June 
>>> 16 - 17, 2004, in Washington DC. On June 16, the Commission heard 
>>> testimony from top law enforcement and intelligence experts on al 
>>> Qaeda and the 911 plot. It was at this hearing that the question 
>>> "What motivated them to do it?" was finally asked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lee Hamilton
>>>
>>> September 11 Commission
>>>
>>> Vice Chair (D)
>>>
>>> I'm interested in the question of motivation of these hijackers, and 
>>> my question is really directed to the agents- "What have you found 
>>> out about why these men did what they did? What motivated them to do 
>>> it?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James Fitzgerald
>>>
>>> FBI Agent
>>>
>>> I believe they feel a sense of outrage against the United States. 
>>> They identify with the Palestinian problem, they identify with 
>>> people who oppose repressive regimes, and I believe they tend to 
>>> focus their anger on the United States.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (This testimony was kept out of the 9/11 Commission Report and no 
>>> recommendation was given to address the main motive for the 9/11 
>>> attacks.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After the report was issued, the ten commissioners formed the "911 
>>> Public Discourse Project".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the August 2, 2005 session on foreign policy, Lee Hamilton 
>>> quickly tries to silence someone who asks why the US support for 
>>> Israel isn't being addressed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From a Gallery Member
>>>
>>> The Gorilla in the Room is US support for Israel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "By his own account, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's animus toward the 
>>> United States stemmed not from his experiences there as a student, 
>>> but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy 
>>> favouring Israel". Pl 47, 9/11 Commission Report.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Cause of the September 11 attacks .. The conflict between 
>>> Israel and Palestine was always at the heart. "It's central', he 
>>> said. "It's not the only thing, but it's the central thing." P248 A 
>>> Pretext to a War.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This was sensitive ground, "Hamilton and Kean say in their new book, 
>>> "Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission," and 
>>> some commissioners worried "listing U.S. support for Israel as a 
>>> root cause of al Qaeda's opposition to the United States indicated 
>>> that the United States should reassess that policy."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hamilton and Kean were promoting their book ant dook some questin 
>>> outside NBc Studios in Washington D.C. in August of 2006. Sam 
>>> Husseini, of the Institute for Public Accuracy asked about US 
>>> foreign policy supporting Israel: "Aren't we planting the seeds of 
>>> further terrorism? Aren't we putting out the fire with gasoline 
>>> here? And you can do all the security measures, all the law 
>>> enforcement, but if that [US Foreign Policy favouring Israel] 
>>> continues isn't that a fundamental argument.......
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hamilton
>>>
>>> "Foreign policy gets very complicated. When you take certain actions 
>>> to support a friend, the security of Israel, as we did, it has 
>>> consequences. No doubt about it."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "America's policy choices have consequences." P376, 911 Commission 
>>> Report.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2034713205135636687&q=911+commission+public+hearing 
>>>
>>>