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Article #545154Re: Is global leadership a matter of military strength?
From: B'inyamin Cramer
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:08
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:08
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:45bb77de$0$5744$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "B'inyamin Cramer" <noyidinsight@notayidhere.cam> wrote in message > news:19Sdnbw7RrtIjibYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >> news:45bb06a4$0$5748$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>> The USA did not provide any material support to Iraq during the >>>>>>>>> Iran Iraq war, and never supported Saddam. They didn't even >>>>>>>>> recognise him as the leader of Iraq or his regime as the >>>>>>>>> legitimate government of Iraq (unlike almost every other country). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What the fuck? Are you for real? Are you serious? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course. Israel and the US supplied weapons to Iran; they supplied >>>>>>> none at all to Iraq. You have it backwards. Learn a little history. >>>>>> >>>>>> Horsefuckingshit I've got it backward, you dopey cunt. >>>>>> >>>>>> What the fuck to you think Rumsfeld was doing in Iraq, shaking the >>>>>> hand of Saddam over. >>> >>> I don't know; nether Saddam nor Rumsfeld have ever disclosed what was >>> discussed. My guess is that Rumsfeld was telling Saddam that the US >>> would not allow Westinghouse (a US company) to supply a nuclear reactor >>> to Iran (the US refused to supply an export certificate, so Saddam >>> bought off the French who had no such moral quibbles). >>> >>> Of course, it could have been almost anything else - Iraq's human rights >>> record, an attempt at a diplomatic resolution of the Iraq/Iran war, or a >>> billion other things. >>> >>> It certainly wasn't the US supplying weapons to Saddam, because they >>> didn't. >> >> Oh yes they did. > > OK, what weapon or weapons did the US sell to Saddam? In 1982 the US decided to back Iraq because Iran was winning on the battlefield. Reagan stated the US "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran and would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran." Check Reagan's National Security Decision Directive of June 1982. Reagan involved the US in providing Iraq with intelligence, economic aid etc. including the provision of weapons. You may apologise at any time you feel comfortable doing so.
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