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2 total messages Started by stone316 Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:18
What a lame game
#27794
Author: stone316
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:18
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I bought this game a few months ago and I have to say, every time I
play the game its freaking frustrating.   From repeating crashing to
too many morons out that that don't know to refresh their NAT or
configure their systems properly.

This is almost 2008 right?  Then why are the maps almost the same
freaking size as the original C&C?   Give us some freaking bigger
maps!!!!!  Such that games take longer than 5 minutes to complete and
that there are consequences to failed strategies.   All this game is,
like the previous ones, is a rush to grab the center or rush in
general.  You can tell within the first 5 minutes who is going to win
a match.

Also, whats with detecting stealth?  I build some turrets to protect
from that and I find out that they only detect stealth half the
radius!?  WTF!??

Man, there are so many problems with this game its not funny... I've
played westwood games since the Dune II but this one has to be the
worst in the genre.   I won't be buying the expansion or buying the
next game.

I would have posted this on the C&C forums but you can't create an
account, you get a proxy error.  Go figure..!!   If they can't get a
simple account creation web page to work it explains alot of things.
Re: What a lame game
#27795
Author: eskimo
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:24
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In article <dbffe7f9-60e7-4b33-a01f-514561accd45
@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, david.best@gmail.com says...

Hmm, I like it a lot but am also fairly frustrated with the online 
experience so hey, Monday and writing frenzy time.


> I bought this game a few months ago and I have to say, every time I
> play the game its freaking frustrating.   From repeating crashing to
> too many morons out that that don't know to refresh their NAT or
> configure their systems properly.

By version 1.08 things got a lot better (but since the damn online 
requires you to update it might well be worse again). 
As far as firewalls in concerned, sheeeeeesh:
- why the need to open up a zillion ports? Use ONE and let your server 
shuffle the traffic onwards to all the different services (third party 
or not)
- autoconf the Windows firewall to help out the morons
- put up a nag screen until the user configures his firewall, 
preferably with longer and longer timeouts :). Ok, this one is not good 
for business but but but...

 
> This is almost 2008 right?  Then why are the maps almost the same
> freaking size as the original C&C?   Give us some freaking bigger
> maps!!!!!  Such that games take longer than 5 minutes to complete and
> that there are consequences to failed strategies.   All this game is,
> like the previous ones, is a rush to grab the center or rush in
> general.  You can tell within the first 5 minutes who is going to win
> a match.

You forgot RANDOM maps. Ok, that will/must arrive in any expansion. 
As it is now people concentrate on learning one map down to the pixel 
and then play only that. Or worse still, play only one faction on such 
a map. Ok, so I can blacklist such people but it still takes up *my* 
valuable play time.

As far as random maps are concerned, I had massive fun with the mod to 
c&c (tiberum dawn I think it was). Using the Tiberium Sun map generator 
for c&c let you play on huge random maps. Yiiiihaaaa. If someone 
managed to MOD such an extension it's ridiculous the game designers 
can't do the same. I really don't care if maps have small flaws or 
stupid strategic chokepoints. Random is random for everyone playing. 
And besides, good algorithms can fix most "map bugs".

Not to mention the speed setting is too fast for an old geezer like 
myself. Let the players negotiate the speed setting. Each player sets 
an interval of acceptable speeds and if they overlap an average from 
that overlap is selected. As a perfectionist I much rather play with 
half the speed compared to what you have thrown at you right now. 

 
> Man, there are so many problems with this game its not funny... I've
> played westwood games since the Dune II but this one has to be the
> worst in the genre.   I won't be buying the expansion or buying the
> next game.

Actually, after the fluked Generals this is the best in the series. 
Gameplay is fluid and for once quite balanced. If the maps were a lot 
larger and random it would be almost perfect.

 
Eskimo 

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