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Re: My Top **30** Ideas For **C&C 2**. - Yours wanted also.

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From: nla... nathan robert large
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:00
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Josh Widjaya (s180...@singnet.com.sg) wrote:
> Hanna T{hti wrote:
>  

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> > 
> > Enough?my suggestions..
> 1) All of the above stuff i suggested.

> 2) This *might* hurt gameplay.. but it would probably not though..
> RESEARCH CENTRES!!! u click on them and you can research steal tech for more 
> units.... u can research STUFF. 

	Aaack.  This is what I hated with Warcraft II- a unit should just 
be a unit.  You could have different _kinds_ of gunners, tanks, etc., but 
don't have them all look the same!  It gets silly when their Footmen are 
hacking yours to bits, and they look just the same.	

> 3) When u put people into APCs or Chinooks, make them all go in. I hate 
> having to select each man to go in.

Absolutely.

> 4) Super duper unit that costs a bitch.... 5 turrets on it with a huge cannon 
> and the works.. and don't stick a VolksWagen beatle motor on it like in the 
> mammoth tank. With all that power and the cost of the investment, PUT A 
> DESCENT MOTOR ON IT!!!!!!!!!

	A Descent motor?  You mean make it even harder to control, and 
give it polygon graphics?  (Sorry, couldn't resist)  
	
	Really, the game doesn't need any more BIG units- mammoths start 
to suck after a while, because that's all you're doing, either building 
them or trying to blow them up.  Same thing with Obelisks- 

> 5) Back to the research thing... Bigger harvies... a bit like the warcraft2 
> upgrades.

	Bigger, smarter, FASTER harvesters.  Those things really slow 
down a game.

> 6) More air units... jets that blow up buildings. Ability to target air 
> units.

	I liked the earlier stuff about having an airfield.  Then you 
just build planes like with the heli pad.  Have light recon craft, jets, 
bombers, Hercules transports (load up some tanks, have fun)

> 7) Scouting units.. like small robot buggies which are really light/fast/ 
> have bloody huge dcout radius.

	Bikes/Humvees are pretty good for this already.

> 8) OH... back to the fog of war... that is not great but if u could build 
> jammers? (unrealistic but who says C&C is realistic?) Jam the enemy's radar 
> so he can't see ur base.... 

	YES!  Have stationary and portable jamming units- the other 
player won't be fooled long, but they'll have to send someone to see what 
you're hiding.

> 9) Not my suggestion but it is a good one: Cliff scaling men and men who have 
> jump jets which fly for short periods of time.

	Just use aircraft.

> 10) Chinook transports vehicles.

	See above.

> 11) Electrified fences to kill infantry?

	But also, infantry that can take out the fences (insulated wire 
cutters!)  Have a sort of super-sneaky Commando (I think someone 
mentioned a Terrorist for Nod) who can steal vehicles, cut down fences, 
set explosive devices and detonate them by remote, and generally be a 
pain long enough for your actual forces to attack.

> 12) A bit crazy but.... A really fast unit with flamer and is pretty badly 
> armoured.. but is VERY fast... specialised troop killer. SQUISH BURN SQUISH 
> BURN... etc.

> 13) Camouflaged snipers........ hide here and there and can pick off enemy 
> troops.

	You can kind of do this with a commando- find a patch of trees 
for him to hide behind, or a building.

> 14) Distinction between MACHINE gunners and MINI gunners.. mini gunners 
> should be pumped and really cool... awesome destructive power.

> 15) SCUD launchers.

	I thought that's what SSM's were for?

> 16) MAYBE night and day... Launch night time attacks and it'll be pretty 
> cool!!!!

	Night would be freaky- have tracer rounds lighting up the sky and 
light sourcing around fires & explosions.

> 17) Maybe a bit too violent but have war in city areas where civies are 
> running around with cars and sky scrapers? hmm..

	I thought about this myself- You could make technicians useful 
here, taking over existing buildings and converting them to your needs, 
or a demolitions squad who could reduce areas to rubble and provide an 
open area to set up your base.  Then have war in the streets, with 
snipers, barricades, overturned cars (even a few trying to flee), and 
lots of damage to buildings.  Heck, you could even add nice touches like 
a park or a zoo (12 Monkeys maneuver- release the animals to attack your 
enemy) and have them burn down.

> 18) I'm all out of ideas.

	And you took most of mine :)

	Maybe a few more

1) Have more varied landforms- an overgrown jungle area with 
machete-wielding troops clearing areas for your constructions, and planes 
dropping Agent Orange.  A true desert, with dunes and sandstorms.  
(Westwood should be able to handle that)  Heavily mountainous regions, 
with steep slopes (which units could fall from and die), high peaks, 
narrow crevasses, boulders perched atop ledges (shoot them and they 
fall?), and mountain climbing troops. (Forget Capture the Flag- try King 
of the Mountain!)  An alien landscape with squishy, bouncy ground and 
infantry-eating beasts.

2) Along with #1, have multi-layered maps, with underwater, various 
elevations of land, air and maybe space (satellites, orbital lasers, 
space station research facilities) layers that can be switched between.  

3) I'll come up with some more later.  

							Nathan


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