🚀 go-pugleaf

Tim McKillican wrote:
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> Jason Ash wrote:
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> > Yam wrote:
> > >
> > > Ed Boris wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Leslie Rooney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Adams wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why buy an expasion disk when there are tons of missions to download on the
> > > > > > net?
> >
> > As can be shown by a great many of Doomers', Duke Nukem 3ders', and Dark
> > Forces players, many of the maps/missions that are available to be
> > downloaded, are junk.  I downloaded a total of about 4 new levels for
> > Doom II, of which none have been saved, and 2-3 for Dark Forces, also
> > none of which I saved.  Why?  They where junk.  Simplistic layouts, and
> > the main difficulty was the fact that there were only the harder enemies
> > (cyberdemons/Dark Troopers/Boba Fett [yes, one DF lvl actually had 6!
> > Boba Fetts!])
> > Levels created by the creators tend to be more play based.
> >
> > > > > I would buy an expensive disc coz:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1)      it takes too long to download off the net, 100 files probably no
> > > > > less that a couple of hours.
> > > > > 2)      It's made by Westwood, and if we support them, they support us.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry but i've supported Westwood long enough.  They are producing games
> > > > of lesser and lesser quality.  But you keep sending them money, 'cause
> > > > thats what they are most interested in.  A lame $49 game, then a lame
> > > > $40 add on.  What crooks!
> > > >
> > > > Have yourself a great time in Westwoods world of unbalanced play.
> > > > Ed
> > >
> > > Hey
> > > Westwood are not crooks.  They make good games.  Red Alert is one of
> > > them.  I don't know why you would think that RA is not a good game.  IT
> > > IS A GOOD GAME.  Anyway, I would buy the expansion disk because:
> > >
> > > 1) new maps, which are probably better than the ones that people make
> > > 2) more missions
> > >
> > > I would not be willing to pay $40 for it, but I would still buy it if it
> > > costed $20 or less.
> >
> > Is RA unbalanced? In solo play, somewhat.  I can't speak for
> > multi-player, as I have yet to try.  All we can do is continue to make
> > our veiws known about what appear to be the largest play inconsistencies
> > in the game, and if Westwood listens, they will fix them.  RA does not
> > require a patch, as the tank rush is not a bug, and the game is playable
> > in its' current form.  Westwood appears to listen to what is said about
> > their software, and I feel that they will rectify the problem.  As for
> > purchasing the Counterstrike add-on, I doubt you will see it for more
> > than $20-30.  While $30 is high for an add-on, wait a few months, and
> > you'll probably see it on the $19.99 and under rack.
> > If we don't support Westwood, Westwood won't support us, and then no one
> > is happy.
> > --
> >                         Jason A.
> > ->They've got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.
> > ->                      General Creighton W. Adams
> > ->Neo-Taoist-Techno-Pagan  I worship the holy Motherboard
> 
> How can you say that tank rushing is not really a problem when you've
> never tried multiplayer RA?  For most of us, that's all that we do, so
> RA really *does* require a patch to fix the massive tank rush problem.
> You can't play a ladder game without having just a tank-fest (And don't
> reply and say that you can defend it because you can't if it is done
> properly).  Westwood is going to lose major money on Counterstrike
> because it doesn't have any extra multiplayer units or options.  I would
> buy it for sure if you could use the new units in multiplayer, but now
> you can't so what's the point in buying it?  Once you have tried
> multiplayer you hardly ever go back to doing single player missions
> because they're so boring compared to multiplayer.
> 
Look, I don't know if Counterstrike is going to sell big or not (it
probably won't, but who knows).  Anyway, tank rushing is NOT a problem
at all.  So, it takes away a little of the strategy, but have you
considered that it is a strategy of its own?  Another strategy is
learning to stop it, and yes, it can be stopped.

One time I played against a friend over the modem.  He didn't exactly
tank rush me early, but he sent about 15-20 heavy tanks along with a few
v2 rockets over to my base to attack.  This was fairly early in the
game.  I was able to beat him.  I built up my base fast and put up 3
airfields after building a barracks, refinery, war factory and radar
dome.  Then, I built another war factory, and three more airfields.  I
was able to destroy his one CY and one refinery at the beginning.  This
is when he attacked.  I got up a third war factory and a second
refinery, and with the tanks that I had up, I was able to stop him.  He
had destroyed two of my war factories, one of my airfields, and one of
my refineries, but after that, beating him was a piece of cake.

No matter what some people say, the tank rush can be stopped.  just
build your own tanks, and a couple of base defense structures never
hurt.  Tank rushing is NOT a problem.