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Ok, anyone out there that thinks there is *more* strategy in Red Alert than
in Warcraft 2, bring it on...  Gee, let's see, I'll take the ... uh,
Soviets and tank rush your shit - oh boy, I won, cool, that really took a
lot of thought.

A person shouldn't *have* to edit a .INI file and *change the game* to make
it worth playing...

Do you know how to stop someone from taking peons in Warcraft 2 that are
made invisible and flame shielded from destroying all your shit, you paid
10 more to build? What do you do when someone takes a pack of Mages and
starts a blizzard on your camp, and then uses a chain of invisible spells
so that you can't even kill the little bastard?  Oh, and when someone
starts using guerrilla warfare with mages and the polymorph spell...fun. 
And of course, there's the matter of having to drill for oil, which is a
*strategic* feature that you have to think about if you plan on building a
navy, which you don't have comparable in Red Alert.

I guess if you think Warcraft 2 is dull in multiplayer mode, you just
haven't figured out how to play it yet...I'm sure I could kick your ass in
a few minutes.

I would argue that multiplayer mode in Warcraft 2 is more *strategic* than
Red Alert.  It's the single player missions that are superior for Red
Alert.  Oh, and you can actually save a multiplayer game in Warcraft 2...
that's 2.99 strikes against Westwood right there!


- T.T.

Anonymous <wei...@acc-net.com> wrote in article
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> Warcraft II came after Command and Conquer, but before Red Alert.  It was
> great fun to play.  Yes, Red Alert is better, but that's to be expected
> with newer software.  Warcraft II is probably one of the best strategy
> games of all time for the PC.  It goes beyond the 'stupid' or 'cutesy'
> characters.  It takes as much strategy if not more to play Warcraft II as
> it does with Red Alert.  Don't knock the game because it's new and
> different.
> 
> SPIT <bo...@hoho.com> wrote in article
<33449d9f...@news.snni.com>...
> > Warcraft II.... geez.... I saw so many people playing it online, I
> > figured it must be really good. So I bought it, I gave it a chance, I
> > could never get into it. The units are so stupid, and the gameplay is
> > downright boring. I guess it appeals to a set of players who want
> > their strategy watered down and in the form of oafs who say "yes
> > milord" and other cutesy sayings. WarII is visually appealing, but
> > that's about the only thing its got going for it over RA. RA has more
> > variety in units, missions, and tactics, which makes for long lasting
> > gameplay value.
> > Yes, RA takes a while to load, and sometimes has strange stutters, but
> > those issues are minor when you're talking about a classic strategy
> > game like RA. 
> > 
> > F Warcraft!
> > 
> > SPIT Magazine
> > http://exo.com/~nazz/
> > 
> > On 3 Apr 1997 00:04:37 GMT, "Nicolas" <ni...@worldnet.fr> belched:
> > !>Ky...@708644668.neo.lrun.com a �crit dans l'article
> > !><NEWTNews.859291...@neo.lrun.com>...
> > !>> Ok first I would like to state that Red Alert is very poorly
> > writen.
> > !>> The game loads and runs so slow.  Warcraft runs better overall,
> > and
> > !>> much better online and it was made how many years earlier?
> > !>> What I mean is Westwood is just out to make a date and not a 
> > !>> quality program.  Why does Blizzards battle net have over 7000
> > people
> > !>> on it with no lag and Wchat has a shit load of lag with 400.
> > !>> I tell ya programming and lack of good beta testing. 
> > !>> No points make this game good or a crappy expansion that includes
> > things
> > !>> that should ahve been in the origonal version.  They just want
> > !>> more money.  I think the game its self is very poor and heavly
> > biased
> > !>toward
> > !>> the russian side.  Which makes multiplayer suck.  I am not just 
> > !>> a bitcher, I have been up to 400 on cases ladder out of 4000
> > people so 
> > !>> i am good at the game, but am very dissapointed with some aspects
> > of it.
> > !>> I think DARK REIGN is going to blow every multiplayer strategy
> > game off
> > !>the 
> > !>> NET!  Check out some of the info on it.  All and all some
> > companies like 
> > !>> Westwood just write crap (and put more time into the stupid movies
> > and
> > !>setup 
> > !>> than the actual game) ie serria and others.  I don't plan to ever
> > buy
> > !>another 
> > !>> westwood product considering the few i have now all suck compared
> > to the
> > !>10 
> > !>> other games i have.  The question I ask is WHY WHY WHY?
> > !>> 
> > !>>
> > !>
> > !>Sorry, but tell me why when I play Warcraft2 after a game of Red
> > Alert I
> > !>feel like playing Wolfenstein 3D after a game of Duke 3D?
> > !>
> > !>War2 is a very popular game but and because it is very simple. War2
> > is very
> > !>much in limited in a matter of tactics and number of units you can
> > build on
> > !>a map. I have played many games of War2 and they were all looking
> > very much
> > !>like the other games of War2 I played before, which never happens
> > when I
> > !>play Red Alert.
> > !>
> > !>Tell me why a game between 2 players is as much interesting than a
> > game
> > !>between 6 players in War2?
> > !>
> > !>The only advantage of War2 over RA are the shortcuts for producing
> > units
> > !>and buildings, but the shortcuts that C&C and RA offer are far more
> > useful
> > !>than the ones in War2.
> > !>
> > !>Oh, by the way, you say that Blizzard makes better games than
> > Westwood...
> > !>Did not Blizzard make the dullest and least interesting game in the
> > World,
> > !>Diablo? I am going to sell it after a very few games.
> > !>
> > !>You say that RA runs slow on you PC. You sure have a 486. Every
> > games
> > !>programmed under Direct X will run poorly on your 486, including
> > Diablo and
> > !>every future games from Blizzard, including Starcraft, of course.
> > !>
> > !>Now this last test: take a unit and send it from one corner to the
> > opposite
> > !>one. What will happen? In C&C and RA, the unit will make its way (if
> > not
> > !>killed, of course) to its destination. In War2, you will find the
> > unit
> > !>stupidly staring at a tree in the middle of the map. So... Tell us
> > again
> > !>what game is superior?
> > !>
> > 
> > 
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