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On 2/23/2018 9:42 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
> I fired AOL yesterday.  Curiously, the droid was more interested in
> getting me to change my password than dealing with the business
> of cancelling.  She insisted she help me change the password and
> I could not get her to understand that I was using my "dial-up"
> phone line to talk to her and couldn't change it if I wanted to
> (and I did not want to).

I don't know if it's still true, but it used to be that AOL was almost 
impossible to cancel. Especially if they charged you by credit card, 
the charges would keep on appearing. Watch suspiciously for any 
transactions that would indicate they haven't actually discontinued 
your account.

Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On 23 Feb 2018 15:42:21 GMT, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> 
>> I fired AOL yesterday.  Curiously, the droid was more interested in
>> getting me to change my password than dealing with the business
>> of cancelling.  She insisted she help me change the password and
>> I could not get her to understand that I was using my "dial-up"
>> phone line to talk to her and couldn't change it if I wanted to
>> (and I did not want to).
>> 
>> It took me 45 minutes to get her to cancel the fucking account
>> and she still was trying to help me change my password before
>> I hung up.
>> 
>> Something stinks to high heaven when changing the password
>> of a to-be-cancelled account is more important.
> 
> I'm trying to convince a friend who is AOL user since the early days to
> cancel her service. Seems to be a pain in the ass... Well she never even
> tried so far, but.

They probably charge your renewal to a credit card. It seems like with all
the fishing, etc. the life of a credit card is about two years, so just let
it go and ignore their nagging emails.

> 
>> Now, I can do newsgroups but my id stuff will be all that
>> unknown.  At least one person has objected to that so I
>> won't be back until I figure out how to get those fields
>> filled in with the proper id.
> 
> Who are you anyway? ;-)
> 
> If you have a Gmail address (or any Google affiliated account) you could
> use their web based usenet, and also set a (known) alias there. It's free.



-- 
Pete

On 2/23/2018 3:16 PM, Dave Garland wrote:
> On 2/23/2018 9:42 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> I fired AOL yesterday.  Curiously, the droid was more interested in
>> getting me to change my password than dealing with the business
>> of cancelling.  She insisted she help me change the password and
>> I could not get her to understand that I was using my "dial-up"
>> phone line to talk to her and couldn't change it if I wanted to
>> (and I did not want to).
> 
> I don't know if it's still true, but it used to be that AOL was almost 
> impossible to cancel. Especially if they charged you by credit card, the 
> charges would keep on appearing. Watch suspiciously for any transactions 
> that would indicate they haven't actually discontinued your account.

That's why they call it "A ... Oh Hell!!!".    ;-)

In Canada, that would be "Eh ... Oh Hell!!!".

-- 
numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

In article <ffcrus...@mid.individual.net>,
Huge  <use...@huge.org.uk> wrote:
>> I'm trying to convince a friend who is AOL user since the early days to
>> cancel her service. Seems to be a pain in the ass...
>
>Once I got her off dial-up, I persuaded my mother to cancel AOL. It took
>several long 'phone calls to accomplish.

You know, once you cancel the dialup, it's free, so there's not much
reason to cancel.  I still have my AOL account and check the mail
religiously every year.  I have friends who use AOL accounts over
broadband because it's the e-mail address they've had for 20 years and
there's no reason to change.

The guts of AOL's mail are being merged into Yahoo's so the technology
is modern even if the gestalt is antique.

R's,
John
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In article <p6q0at$fiv$1...@dont-email.me>,
Dave Garland  <dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>I don't know if it's still true, but it used to be that AOL was almost 
>impossible to cancel. Especially if they charged you by credit card, 

I don't remember the details but it was not hard to switch my AOL
account from paid to free umpteen years ago, and the charges
definitely stopped.

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Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:

> On 2018-02-24, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>> In article <ffcrus...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Huge  <use...@huge.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to convince a friend who is AOL user since the early days to
>>>> cancel her service. Seems to be a pain in the ass...
>>>
>>>Once I got her off dial-up, I persuaded my mother to cancel AOL. It took
>>>several long 'phone calls to accomplish.
>>
>> You know, once you cancel the dialup, it's free, so there's not much
>> reason to cancel.
>
> It's the dialup I was talking about. She wanted to keep her AOL email
> address, since she had used it to subscribe to a lot of genealogy
> resources.
>
>> I have friends who use AOL accounts over
>> broadband because it's the e-mail address they've had for 20 years and
>> there's no reason to change.
>
> Precisely.

It's quite easy to have your AOL email forwarded to a more
useful GMAIL account.  Just look in your AOL settings.
A bonus, GMAIL is way better about filtering SPAM.

-- 
Dan Espen

On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 23:38:05 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>
> In article <ffcrus...@mid.individual.net>,
> Huge  <use...@huge.org.uk> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to convince a friend who is AOL user since the early days to
>>> cancel her service. Seems to be a pain in the ass...
>>
>>Once I got her off dial-up, I persuaded my mother to cancel AOL. It took
>>several long 'phone calls to accomplish.
>
> You know, once you cancel the dialup, it's free, so there's not much
> reason to cancel.  I still have my AOL account and check the mail
> religiously every year.  I have friends who use AOL accounts over
> broadband because it's the e-mail address they've had for 20 years and
> there's no reason to change.

Well you pay $30 (?) bucks for services you don't need. If you cancel
that you still can use you AOL email address. The $30 pays you plenty of
beer or other things you could buy instead.

If course if you think you need additional AOL services you should not
cancel it.
-- 
Andreas
You know you are a redneck if
you ever used a weedeater indoors.

In article <p6uge4$jbf$6...@dont-email.me>,
Dan Espen  <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Precisely.
>
>It's quite easy to have your AOL email forwarded to a more
>useful GMAIL account.  Just look in your AOL settings.
>A bonus, GMAIL is way better about filtering SPAM.

If you want to read your mail with Gmail, you're better off leaving your
AOL account alone and telling Gmail to collect it using POP3.  That avoids
mysterious disappeance when AOL's and Gmail's spam filtering disagree.

By the way, AOL's spam filtering these days is pretty good because it's
actually Yahoo's spam filtering.

R's,
John
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John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> writes:

> In article <p6uge4$jbf$6...@dont-email.me>,
> Dan Espen  <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Precisely.
>>
>>It's quite easy to have your AOL email forwarded to a more
>>useful GMAIL account.  Just look in your AOL settings.
>>A bonus, GMAIL is way better about filtering SPAM.
>
> If you want to read your mail with Gmail, you're better off leaving your
> AOL account alone and telling Gmail to collect it using POP3.  That avoids
> mysterious disappeance when AOL's and Gmail's spam filtering disagree.
>
> By the way, AOL's spam filtering these days is pretty good because it's
> actually Yahoo's spam filtering.

I know about AOL/Yahoo.
I set up AOL forwarding for a friend.

I switched from Verizon/Yahoo to GMAIL about a year ago.
I forward my old verizon/yahoo email to GMAIL.
With the verizon/yahoo account I got up to 30 spams a day.
GMAIL, 1 or 2.

I use IMAP to access the GMAIL  inbox and clean the remaining Spam there
using Spamassassin.  Spamassassin catches the 1 or 2 that GMAIL misses.

Something gets thru Spamassassin maybe once a month.

-- 
Dan Espen

On 26/02/2018 01:56, John Levine wrote:
> In article <p6uge4$jbf$6...@dont-email.me>,
> Dan Espen  <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Precisely.
>>
>> It's quite easy to have your AOL email forwarded to a more
>> useful GMAIL account.  Just look in your AOL settings.
>> A bonus, GMAIL is way better about filtering SPAM.
> 
> If you want to read your mail with Gmail, you're better off leaving your
> AOL account alone and telling Gmail to collect it using POP3.  That avoids
> mysterious disappeance when AOL's and Gmail's spam filtering disagree.
> 
> By the way, AOL's spam filtering these days is pretty good because it's
> actually Yahoo's spam filtering.


IMHO its also pretty good at blocking legitimate e-mail. I still have no 
idea why e-mail from our local branch on the campaign fails to get to 
our secretary's AOL mail box.

> 
> R's,
> John
> 

Dave

David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> writes:

> On 26/02/2018 01:56, John Levine wrote:
>> In article <p6uge4$jbf$6...@dont-email.me>,
>> Dan Espen  <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Precisely.
>>>
>>> It's quite easy to have your AOL email forwarded to a more
>>> useful GMAIL account.  Just look in your AOL settings.
>>> A bonus, GMAIL is way better about filtering SPAM.
>>
>> If you want to read your mail with Gmail, you're better off leaving your
>> AOL account alone and telling Gmail to collect it using POP3.  That avoids
>> mysterious disappeance when AOL's and Gmail's spam filtering disagree.
>>
>> By the way, AOL's spam filtering these days is pretty good because it's
>> actually Yahoo's spam filtering.
>
>
> IMHO its also pretty good at blocking legitimate e-mail. I still have
> no idea why e-mail from our local branch on the campaign fails to get
> to our secretary's AOL mail box.

Most often it's because they are spammers.

-- 
Dan Espen