Re: 1958 Crisis in education

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From: Questor
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 18:40

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On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 14:56:54 +0100 (BST), si...@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner)
wrote:
>On Tuesday, in article
>     <9e6ade0d-c70e-4666...@googlegroups.com>
>     jsa...@ecn.ab.ca "Quadibloc" wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:30:30 AM UTC-6, Bob Eager wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:28:52 +0000, Huge wrote:
>>>> Isn't Raquel Welch a tad ... old ... to be doing plumbing?    :o)
>> 
>> He wrote that? Why isn't his post visible?
>> 
>> I see your earlier post, and then I see your post quoting this. But
>> the post you're quoting is not recorded on Google Groups (formerly
>> DejaNews).
>
>Water under the bridge a bit now, but Huge puts "X-No-Archive: Yes" in
>his headers, which prevents Google Groups from retaining them.  It used
>to keep them for a few days before deleting them, but the retention
>period seems to be a lot shorter now (it may even be zero) -- I'm
>surprised you can see any of his posts!  One of the perils of not using
>a proper newsfeed.

Does it keep Google Groups from retaining them, or merely keep Google Groups
from displaying them to the outside world?  I have my doubts that Google would
willingly delete any data, just as there's no way to stop me from keeping Huge's
posts that I download from a proper newsfeed.

If you knew my Truename (hat tip Vernor Vinge), and Google Groups' search
function was working correctly that day, you could find Usenet posts I made over
thirty years ago that have been resurrected from old system backup tapes that
included newsfeeds of the day.  That lesson is one reason (of many) why I don't
do that Facepage thing.

Usenet posts used  to be considered ephemeral; now they're eternal -- even ones
made many years before Dejanews, let alone Google Groups.

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