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Article #632736Re: Colors of Infinity
From: pe... Peter Ceresole
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:00
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In article <5niove$gb4$1...@sue.cc.uregina.ca>, ba...@borealis.cs.uregina.ca (John Bayko) wrote: > Same with pinecones... > If mathematics is made up by humans, did the number of Earths >vary between 0 and infinity until the first neanderthal learned to >count to one? It seems to me that the existance of mathematics is >pretty much independent of the perception of aggregate brain cells, >otherwise the very fabric of rality would have been homogeneous chaos >which couldn't have formed the very brain cells required to bring >order to it. I think mathematics is simply a tool, invented by humans, which codifies certain relationships in the real world in such a way that humans can handle them. I agree that saying that it's human invention doesn't belittle it; the relationships still exist and Maths is one of the ways (probably the only effective way) we can explain them and manipulate our knowledge of them. I'm just a bit wary of ascribing too much significance to certain relationships; the nautilus shell and the Fibonacci series comes up a lot. How about the shape of suspension bridges (or hanging creepers) and catenaries? It's an almost trivial coincidence because they are *designed* to be the same, but in fact there's no fundamental difference. It's a case of function described by Maths. Of course Maths will contain close analogues to real life forms; that's its job. -- Peter
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