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Re: different architecture, was PDP 11/40 system manual

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From: Peter Flass
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 21:42
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Dan Espen <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
> 
>> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 7:09:42 AM UTC-4, Peter Flass wrote:
>> 
>>>>> All the rest other than OS were mistakes. IBM was unable to get
>>>>> even PCP to fit on the smallest machines, so DOS, TOS, BOS were written as
>>>>> "temporary" systems which became permanent.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes.  I never entirely understood the difference between BOS and DOS.
>>>> I realize that BOS could run in 8K and DOS needed 16K, but what else
>>>> did BOS leave out?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't know that much about BOS either. I used to think it was a subset of
>>> OS, but Bitsavers has some manuals and it appears it was a subset of DOS.
>>> I'll have to read the manuals. I would assume it at least left out
>>> multiprogramming. I think BOS could be run from cards.
>> 
>> I think the IBM S/360 history says BOS was intended as an 
>> emergency operating system rushed out so the users would have
>> something to use quickly.  It could also be used in very small
>> systems--I believe S/360 was originally offered in only 8k (later
>> raised to 16k).  DOS was also an emergency development, but
>> DOS managed to be permanent.
> 
> An 8K S/360 would have been useless, OTOH,
> lots of 8K 1401s worked very well.
> 
> IBM managed to design something so complex
> that it needed an OS, and IBM couldn't shoehorn
> the OS into 8K, let alone any applications.
> 
> An existing 8K 1401 shop would need a S330/30
> with 64K.  Lots of places tried 32K, that never
> worked well.
> 

Most of my early career was developing software for customers with 32K
360/30s, and that seemed to work out quite well. Obviously basic batch
applications: personnel, payroll, accounts receivable/payable, inventory,
etc.

-- 
Pete
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