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Re: usenet history, was 1958 Crisis in education

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From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 16:46
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Michael Black <mbl...@pubnix.net> writes:
> It was google that made the effort to find old archives.  I think some
> of it was related to specific newsgroups, so some one or place would
> archive a newsgroup they thought were valuable.  But I suspect yes,
> there wasn't an online archive going back to 1981, it was saved to
> tape and somehow the tape was never reused.   Maybe in the early days
> someone did set out to archive, the traffic was low enough that
> someone might.  But until dejanews started a public archive, usenet
> really was seen as "temporary". It's hard to believe that it's 22 or
> 23 years since dejanews came along, which is now longer than the time
> between the start of usenet, if we use 1981, and dejanew's arrival in
> 1995 or 1996.

there is TYMSHARE's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare

CMS-based online computer conferencing from the early 70s ... and
started making it free to (IBM user group) SHARE as VMSHARE in AUG1976,
archives now at
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

I had also cut a deal with TYMSHARE to get monthly tape dump of all
VMSHARE files to putting up on internal network and services (including
world wide virtual machine based online sales & marketing HONE system).
A major hurdle was overcoming lawyers who were afraid that employees
would be contaminated with customer information.

misc. old vmshare related email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare
archived HONE (&/or APL) related posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone

trivia: after MD bought TYMSHARE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare#Tymshare_sold_to_McDonnell_Douglas
VMSHARE was migrated to McGill University ... old post reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#42 vmshare

and corporate sponsored university BITNET (bitnet used same technology
as internal network, originally from co-worder at science center)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET
archived BITNET related posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

early 90s, pagesat was doing usenet feed over satellite. I got "free"
feed for doing ms/dos and unix drivers (also co-authored article for
boardwatch magazine) ... original feed was 9.6kbit ... but image files
on usenet was increasing and they doubled feed to 19.2kbit. Old picture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/pagesat.jpg

pagesat usenet feed discussion group
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/biz.pagesat

past posts mentioning boardwatch article
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#38 Vanishing Posts...
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#39 I'll Be! Al Gore DID Invent the Internet After All ! NOT
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#66 UUCP email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005l.html#16 Newsgroups (Was Another OS/390 to z/OS 1.4 migration
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#11 An Out-of-the-Main Activity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#17 What if phone company had developed Internet?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#16 Newsweek article--baby boomers and computers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008m.html#19 IBM-MAIN longevity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009j.html#19 Another one bites the dust
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#84 Anyone going to Supercomputers '09 in Portland?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009r.html#74 bulletin board
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010c.html#75 Posts missing from ibm-main on google groups
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#92 The PC industry is heading for collapse
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#26 Anyone here run UUCP?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#38 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#57 email security re: hotmail.com
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#109 25 Years: How the Web began
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016g.html#59 The Forgotten World of BBS Door Games - Slideshow from PCMag.com
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#21 Pre-internet email and usenet (was Re: How to choose the best news server for this newsgroup in 40tude Dialog?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017g.html#51 Stopping the Internet of noise
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017h.html#110 private thread drift--Re: Demolishing the Tile Turtle

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