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Re: First use of /sbin in Unix?

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From: Ahem A Rivets Shot
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 20:39
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:45:00 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes:
> >On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 17:22:43 GMT
> >scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> >
> >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> >> >Isn't that considered a security risk?  If a bad guy creates a piece
> >
> >	Yep.
> >
> >> >of malware and calls it "ls", it's much easier to slip it into ~/bin
> >> >than into /bin.
> >> 
> >> For root, sure.  For joe user?  Not so much. If someone can access my
> >> bin directory, all bets are already off.
> >
> >	Root can access your bin directory and therein lies the risk, if
> >you can get a sysadmin to inherit your path while trying to solve a
> >'problem' you've cooked up (eg. by typing su in your session) then you
> >can get your ls script to run as root - it probably then leaves you a
> >setuid backdoor and runs the real ls. It used to be a pretty standard
> >student stunt back in the day.
> 
> If I were using a system shared with _anyone_ else, I'd worry about it;
> but that's pretty uncommon outside corporate firewalls.

	True enough - and it is only multi-user systems where there are
unprivileged users unscrupulous enough to try and con their way to root
access.

> In any case, if someone gets root, again, all bets are already off
> (su - user, anyone?)

	The problem is *you* getting root when you're not supposed to.

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