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Re: First use of /sbin in Unix?

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From: Scott Lurndal
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:45
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes:
>On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 17:22:43 GMT
>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>> >Isn't that considered a security risk?  If a bad guy creates a piece
>
>	Yep.
>
>> >of malware and calls it "ls", it's much easier to slip it into ~/bin
>> >than into /bin.
>> 
>> For root, sure.  For joe user?  Not so much. If someone can access my
>> bin directory, all bets are already off.
>
>	Root can access your bin directory and therein lies the risk, if
>you can get a sysadmin to inherit your path while trying to solve a
>'problem' you've cooked up (eg. by typing su in your session) then you can
>get your ls script to run as root - it probably then leaves you a setuid
>backdoor and runs the real ls. It used to be a pretty standard student
>stunt back in the day.

If I were using a system shared with _anyone_ else, I'd worry about it;
but that's pretty uncommon outside corporate firewalls.

In any case, if someone gets root, again, all bets are already off
(su - user, anyone?)
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