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Re: The birth of BASIC

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From: Richard Thiebaud
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 21:19
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On 06/07/2018 01:32 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2018-06-06, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 12:35:24 +0100, Gareth's Downstairs Computer
>> <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems to me that computer scientists wish for everything to
>>> be handed to them on a plate and baulk at the thought of
>>> minor diversions to provide some simple and trivial extra facitlites
>>> whereas real world programmers just get on with the job.
>>
>> Isn't that the whole point of computers?  To take care of all the little
>> fiddly bits so that humans don't have to?
> 
> Ostensibly, yes.  The reality is that users get stuck with the ever-increasing
> proliferation of little fiddly bits known as "system configuration".
> 
>> Oh, these computer scientists with their assemblers and compilers... and their
>> octal and hexadecimal... why don't they just write out all the ones and zeros?
> 
> No, no... computer scientists refuse to dirty their hands with real-world
> things like ones and zeros.  They're too busy coming up with increasingly
> high-level approaches to isolate themselves from the real world.
> 
They are computer scientists, not computer engineers. They are not 
supposed to be developing practical applications.
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