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Article #623714Re: The birth of BASIC
From: Richard Thiebaud
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 21:19
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 21:19
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On 06/07/2018 01:32 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2018-06-06, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: > >> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 12:35:24 +0100, Gareth's Downstairs Computer >> <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> It seems to me that computer scientists wish for everything to >>> be handed to them on a plate and baulk at the thought of >>> minor diversions to provide some simple and trivial extra facitlites >>> whereas real world programmers just get on with the job. >> >> Isn't that the whole point of computers? To take care of all the little >> fiddly bits so that humans don't have to? > > Ostensibly, yes. The reality is that users get stuck with the ever-increasing > proliferation of little fiddly bits known as "system configuration". > >> Oh, these computer scientists with their assemblers and compilers... and their >> octal and hexadecimal... why don't they just write out all the ones and zeros? > > No, no... computer scientists refuse to dirty their hands with real-world > things like ones and zeros. They're too busy coming up with increasingly > high-level approaches to isolate themselves from the real world. > They are computer scientists, not computer engineers. They are not supposed to be developing practical applications.
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