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Article #623713Re: The birth of BASIC
From: Charlie Gibbs
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 17:32
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 17:32
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On 2018-06-06, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 12:35:24 +0100, Gareth's Downstairs Computer > <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> It seems to me that computer scientists wish for everything to >> be handed to them on a plate and baulk at the thought of >> minor diversions to provide some simple and trivial extra facitlites >> whereas real world programmers just get on with the job. > > Isn't that the whole point of computers? To take care of all the little > fiddly bits so that humans don't have to? Ostensibly, yes. The reality is that users get stuck with the ever-increasing proliferation of little fiddly bits known as "system configuration". > Oh, these computer scientists with their assemblers and compilers... and their > octal and hexadecimal... why don't they just write out all the ones and zeros? No, no... computer scientists refuse to dirty their hands with real-world things like ones and zeros. They're too busy coming up with increasingly high-level approaches to isolate themselves from the real world. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ Fight low-contrast text in web pages! http://contrastrebellion.com
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