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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:10:55 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:50:28 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT), hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:35:38 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However you talk about your "old PC physically works reasonably well
>>>>>>>> but the software is obsolete and difficult to use for many tasks since
>>>>>>>> it is no longer compatible".  With what is it not compatible that is
>>>>>>>> causing you problems?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My MS-Word and Internet Explorer have a difficult time today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For instance, I send Word documents to friends.  They could only
>>>>>>> open it as Read-Only due to the old version.  They could not get
>>>>>>> around that restriction without going to a lot of trouble.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't see how that makes the software more difficult to use than it
>>>>>> was when you first got it.  It makes data interchange more difficult,
>>>>>> however Word supports a wide range of formats with more added with
>>>>>> every version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As mentioned, the latest MS-WORD gives trouble when faced with
>>>>> a document produced by old versions of WORD.  You can get around
>>>>> it, but it's a pain.  In some corporate environments, you cannot
>>>>> get around it due to security restrictions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In one transfer, the new WORD screwed up the pagination, and I
>>>>> had to waste time tinkering with the margins and other settings
>>>>> to get the pages to fit properly for printing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As someone mentioned, I now use plain text files.  But things
>>>>>>> like italics and boldface get lost.  It's impossible to send
>>>>>>> a more formal document with headings and pagination.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just tried saving a document in RTF format in Word for MS-DOS 5.5.
>>>>>> Word for MS-DOS can't show formatting except as a color change.  When
>>>>>> I opened the document with the latest version of Word, it came right
>>>>>> up with bold, italic, bold italic, and underline right where they were
>>>>>> supposed to be, looking much better than in Word for MS-DOS.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is formatting that can be done with Word that won't carry
>>>>>> through to an RTF but for basic stuff of this nature it's fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personally, I haven't had good luck with RTF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As to the Internet, more and more websites no longer operate
>>>>>>> on my browser.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So have you installed Firefox or Chrome?  More and more web sites
>>>>>> don't work on ANY Microsoft browser you know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am seeing fewer and fewer websites working with my PC.
>>>>> Unfortunately, Firefox didn't run well on my PC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The reality is that today's computer business does not like
>>>>> old software or old hardware.  "They" keep introducing
>>>>> incompatibilities forcing end users to upgrade, even if
>>>>> their existing machines run just fine in isolation.
>>>> 
>>>> How old is your machine and what OS are you using?
>>>> 
>>>>> I know a fellow who runs an old version of LOTUS.  For himself,
>>>>> it works just fine.  But he no longer can send his spreadsheets
>>>>> to anyone else.  At one time Excel was able to read old LOTUS.
>>>>> No more.
>>>> 
>>>> I can't see anyone in his right mind who has used a modern spreadsheet
>>>> wanting to use "an old version of Lotus". It runs on my current
>>>> machine just fine, but it's horribly limited.
>>> 
>>> It does everything my friend needs it to do.  Given that, why
>>> should he be forced to upgrade?
>>> 
>>> My old MS-Word does everything I could ever want in a word processor.
>>> But obviously M/S isn't happy about that--they're not getting any
>>> new revenue from me.  So by planned obsolescence--which the I.T.
>>> community eagerly embraces--I'm forced to upgrade.  Not only that,
>>> but I understand the latest word is only licensed, not purchased,
>>> so I'll have to pay rent for years.  No more "home version" (e.g.
>>> Microsoft Works).  Plus, I don't think my old existing copy of
>>> MS-Works will work on a new machine.
>>> 
>> 
>> I spent about 33 years in the IT world, and I don't like planned
>> obsolescence. Its stupid.
>> 
>
>Keeps a lot of people employed, though.

Gear wears out. And at several jobs, the other employees regularly
broke their keyboards, mice, monitors, and various cables. So I still
had work to do. Not to mention the idiots who thought they could just
pop any old toner cartridges in the laser printers and ink jet ink in
those. They didn't last long when we reported that little problem. The
boss wasn't happy.