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Article #622046Re: Has Microsoft commited suicide ...
From: Peter Flass
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 00:10
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 00:10
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JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:50:28 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote: >>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT), hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:35:38 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> However you talk about your "old PC physically works reasonably well >>>>>>> but the software is obsolete and difficult to use for many tasks since >>>>>>> it is no longer compatible". With what is it not compatible that is >>>>>>> causing you problems? >>>>>> >>>>>> My MS-Word and Internet Explorer have a difficult time today. >>>>>> >>>>>> For instance, I send Word documents to friends. They could only >>>>>> open it as Read-Only due to the old version. They could not get >>>>>> around that restriction without going to a lot of trouble. >>>>> >>>>> I don't see how that makes the software more difficult to use than it >>>>> was when you first got it. It makes data interchange more difficult, >>>>> however Word supports a wide range of formats with more added with >>>>> every version. >>>> >>>> As mentioned, the latest MS-WORD gives trouble when faced with >>>> a document produced by old versions of WORD. You can get around >>>> it, but it's a pain. In some corporate environments, you cannot >>>> get around it due to security restrictions. >>>> >>>> In one transfer, the new WORD screwed up the pagination, and I >>>> had to waste time tinkering with the margins and other settings >>>> to get the pages to fit properly for printing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> As someone mentioned, I now use plain text files. But things >>>>>> like italics and boldface get lost. It's impossible to send >>>>>> a more formal document with headings and pagination. >>>>> >>>>> I just tried saving a document in RTF format in Word for MS-DOS 5.5. >>>>> Word for MS-DOS can't show formatting except as a color change. When >>>>> I opened the document with the latest version of Word, it came right >>>>> up with bold, italic, bold italic, and underline right where they were >>>>> supposed to be, looking much better than in Word for MS-DOS. >>>>> >>>>> There is formatting that can be done with Word that won't carry >>>>> through to an RTF but for basic stuff of this nature it's fine. >>>> >>>> Personally, I haven't had good luck with RTF. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> As to the Internet, more and more websites no longer operate >>>>>> on my browser. >>>>> >>>>> So have you installed Firefox or Chrome? More and more web sites >>>>> don't work on ANY Microsoft browser you know. >>>> >>>> I am seeing fewer and fewer websites working with my PC. >>>> Unfortunately, Firefox didn't run well on my PC. >>>> >>>> The reality is that today's computer business does not like >>>> old software or old hardware. "They" keep introducing >>>> incompatibilities forcing end users to upgrade, even if >>>> their existing machines run just fine in isolation. >>> >>> How old is your machine and what OS are you using? >>> >>>> I know a fellow who runs an old version of LOTUS. For himself, >>>> it works just fine. But he no longer can send his spreadsheets >>>> to anyone else. At one time Excel was able to read old LOTUS. >>>> No more. >>> >>> I can't see anyone in his right mind who has used a modern spreadsheet >>> wanting to use "an old version of Lotus". It runs on my current >>> machine just fine, but it's horribly limited. >> >> It does everything my friend needs it to do. Given that, why >> should he be forced to upgrade? >> >> My old MS-Word does everything I could ever want in a word processor. >> But obviously M/S isn't happy about that--they're not getting any >> new revenue from me. So by planned obsolescence--which the I.T. >> community eagerly embraces--I'm forced to upgrade. Not only that, >> but I understand the latest word is only licensed, not purchased, >> so I'll have to pay rent for years. No more "home version" (e.g. >> Microsoft Works). Plus, I don't think my old existing copy of >> MS-Works will work on a new machine. >> > > I spent about 33 years in the IT world, and I don't like planned > obsolescence. Its stupid. > Keeps a lot of people employed, though. -- Pete
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