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Article #620711Re: Nostalgia
From: Peter Flass
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 13:24
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 13:24
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Dan Espen <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> writes: > >> On Tue, 2018-02-27, Peter Flass wrote: >>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote: >> ... >>>> (Not that I would mind such a discussion. I'd like to know e.g. how >>>> programming was affected by sitting at a slow serial terminal in the >>>> 1980s.) >>> >>> Or a card reader in the '60s. >> >> That too, but I'm personally more interested in the time frame when >> tools I use today were created: the Unix shells, C compilers, >> vi/Emacs, troff ... > > I didn't consider a terminal on a 300 baud line slow. > Emacs could scroll through a program reasonably fast > at that speed. The immediate predecessor to slow terminals > was cards. A completely different animal. > > Any terminal was a good thing, but I never had to spend any time on a > paper terminal. > Cards were a lot faster: 1000CPM in and maybe 600-1200LPM output. It was waiting for batch turnaround that was so slow. I was amazed the first time I saw a compile on a B5500 - as soon as the last crd was read the program listing began to print. That being said, I started out with terminals using a 10CPS TTY, so when I got a 300 baud terminal it seemed lightning fast. -- Pete
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