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Article #620362Re: free, huh, was Bitcoin confusion?
From: Peter Flass
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:36
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 19:36
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JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 14:31:12 -0700, Peter Flass > <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:31:58 -0000 (UTC), John Levine >>> <jo...@taugh.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <PM000564F...@aca4281c.ipt.aol.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> "Free" means that the recipients have an infinite resource which >>>>> causes no restrainst in the consumption of that resource. >>>> >>>> Nonetheless, all over Europe and even in Canada people get health care >>>> for free, no payment at all at point of service, and they are >>>> healthier than Americans and the overall cost is about 1/2 of ours. >>> >>> Maybe the cost is 1/2 of ours because the populations they treat are >>> healthier. >>> >>> There is this unstated implication that "they are healthier because >>> the medical treatment system is better". The notion that "they are >>> healthier because their lifestyle is different" never gets considered. >>> People just assume that the average American's daily activities are >>> identical to those of the average Frenchman or German or Englishman or >>> Swede. But I have never seen research that shows that this is the >>> case. >>> >>> Then there's the matter of whether the statistics are identical. >>> People at this point generally say that "the UN defines blah blah >>> blah", but does the average doctor give a crap about how the UN >>> defines it when he is filling out reports? He's more concerned with >>> the insurance company and the malpractice lawyers, both of whom affect >>> his life directly. >>> >>> >> >> From what I understand they do a lot more bicycling than Mericans do. A lot >> of people bike to work or shopping. I think Germans are more into outdoor >> stuff like hiking than we are. In the US, guns are a significant cause of >> injuries and death. >> >> In my opinion economies of scale don't really apply to health care, since >> it's a "craft" business, like education. A surgical team can only operate >> on one patient at a time, whether health care is nationalized or private. I >> haven't particularly noticed doctors and nurses sitting idle looking for >> work. If the government really wants to improve medical care it would >> subsidize medical and nursing schools to graduate more trained people. > > I found out a few years ago there are lots of bicycle races and > competitions every year in the U.S. > This has nothing to do with people bicycling every day. -- Pete
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