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Article #619975Re: Making Computers Secure
From: J. Clarke
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 03:38
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 03:38
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On 2 Feb 2018 06:46:05 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote: >On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote: >> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:35:25 AM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >>> On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote: >> >>> > On some tech news site, I came across a comment to the effect >>> > that things like Meltdown and Spectre wouldn't be such a big >>> > deal... >> >>> > if the only executable content our computers ran were programs we >>> > installed on them. >> >>> That ignores the multiuser aspect of computers. >> >> Well, if a computer is multi-user, you only want the admins to be able to >> install software. "program" and "install software" are two different things. I can write and run all the code I want on the company machine. Until they gave me admin access a while back I was unable to install anything. "Install" means more these days than "copy an executable file". > >Hard and undesirable, IMHO: what good is a computer if you cannot >program it? And how about interpreters: should I be allowed to write >my own shell or Perl scripts? > >Unix (which is what I prefer) settles for this: that a user cannot >/accidentally/ execute code which she either (a) has written herself >or (b) has been installed by an admin. > >And nowadays (c) Javascript and stuff in web pages she visits :-/ > >/Jorgen
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