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Re: Making Computers Secure

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From: J. Clarke
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 03:38
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On 2 Feb 2018 06:46:05 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se>
wrote:

>On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:35:25 AM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote:
>>
>>> > On some tech news site, I came across a comment to the effect
>>> > that things like Meltdown and Spectre wouldn't be such a big
>>> > deal...
>>
>>> > if the only executable content our computers ran were programs we
>>> > installed on them.
>>
>>> That ignores the multiuser aspect of computers.
>>
>> Well, if a computer is multi-user, you only want the admins to be able to 
>> install software.

"program" and "install software" are two different things.  I can
write and run all the code I want on the company machine.  Until they
gave me admin access a while back I was unable to install anything.

"Install" means more these days than "copy an executable file".
>
>Hard and undesirable, IMHO: what good is a computer if you cannot
>program it?  And how about interpreters: should I be allowed to write
>my own shell or Perl scripts?
>
>Unix (which is what I prefer) settles for this: that a user cannot
>/accidentally/ execute code which she either (a) has written herself
>or (b) has been installed by an admin.
>
>And nowadays (c) Javascript and stuff in web pages she visits :-/
>
>/Jorgen
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