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Article #619974Re: Making Computers Secure
From: Jorgen Grahn
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:46
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:46
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On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote: > On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:35:25 AM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> On Tue, 2018-01-30, Quadibloc wrote: > >> > On some tech news site, I came across a comment to the effect >> > that things like Meltdown and Spectre wouldn't be such a big >> > deal... > >> > if the only executable content our computers ran were programs we >> > installed on them. > >> That ignores the multiuser aspect of computers. > > Well, if a computer is multi-user, you only want the admins to be able to > install software. Hard and undesirable, IMHO: what good is a computer if you cannot program it? And how about interpreters: should I be allowed to write my own shell or Perl scripts? Unix (which is what I prefer) settles for this: that a user cannot /accidentally/ execute code which she either (a) has written herself or (b) has been installed by an admin. And nowadays (c) Javascript and stuff in web pages she visits :-/ /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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