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Article #619960Re: Making Computers Secure
From: Quadibloc
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 14:06
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 14:06
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On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:52:02 AM UTC-7, Bob Eager wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 03:41:11 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote: > > Correct. 286 had protected mode, but almost no OS used it... > The only systems I can think of were some nice UNIX-like systems, > including IBM's PC-IX. It didn't help that protected mode was > incompatible address-wise with real mode. Basically, an operating system that used 286 protected mode would have to *reboot* before it could run real mode software. So an operating system using 286 protected mode was _incompatible_ with DOS software for the PC, which is why Windows didn't get written that way. But AMD - and then Intel - made the same mistake with 64 bit mode, which is why you can't run (directly on the bare iron, without using virtualization) 16-bit Windows programs on the 64-bit versions of Windows. I just can't understand why, having the historical example of the 80286 before them, they would fail to recognize the supreme importance of always maintaining upwards compatibility. John Savard
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