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Article #4047

Re: Re: Feedback on Computer Crime - Apology

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From: The Grey Wolf
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 1990 02:14
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In article <1990Aug29....@ctr.columbia.edu> mo...@ctr.columbia.edu (Robert Mokry) writes:
>
>What if it's a non-*ix machine and a non-VMS machine, and it just happens to
>give the usual login: -prompt?  Remember that you connected to this machine
>by accident and it could be anything.
>
>Assuming for a moment that it is a *ix machine, ^D is the worst possible
>thing you can type at that point.  In *ix ^D means that you have finished
>typing input and YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THE INPUT.  When you type ^D to the
>shell to logout, you certainly don't mean that everything you've done was
>wrong; you just mean that you're done.  ^D means the same thing when used
>with programs running in the shell.  Thus by typing ^D at the login: prompt,
>you are admitting that you intended to illegally connect to the computer,
>and that after being partially successful, you decide to take a break and
>celebrate.

Give me a break.  What someone is going to type at a prompt is dependent
upon what is going on, and how one wishes to terminate the session/program/
whatever.

Some programs sit back and *laugh* at an EOF... others (like login) do not.
I dislike dbx sometimes because I want to be able to type a single key-
stroke and have it go away.  It doesn't do that -- it wants "quit".

>
>The proper character to type to a mistaken login is ^C, which means that 
>you have made a mistake and you want to discard everything.

Well, there are some out there that laugh at an interrupt.  adb is one of 
them due to its nature.  (occasionally /etc/rc has been rather rude to me
when given an interrupt -- I missed the point of turning back...)

> 							    However, if you 
>try this, you will find that nothing seems to happen.  And that is because
>the appropriate authorities have been notified at that point, and you should
>just sit back and not move and wait for them to take you away.

(heh)   Yeah.  Right.

I think this right/wrong discussion of when you should hit what key has
gone just a weeeeeee bit far into the twilight zone of paranoia.
-- 
-- once bitten, twice shy, thrice stupid --
How much work could a network work if a network could network?
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From: greywolf@unisoft.UUCP (The Grey Wolf)
Newsgroups: alt.security,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Re: Feedback on Computer Crime - Apology
Keywords: ^D,^Z,^C
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Date: 31 Aug 90 02:14:42 GMT
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