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Sun, 03 Nov 1996 02:29
Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: S.D.
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 02:29
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 02:29
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To przyczynek do japonskiej supremacji nad amerykanskim przemyslem samochodowym. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dow Jones Business News -- October 15, 1996 Japan Watches As Foreigner Tries To Turn Around Mazda By YURI KAGEYAMA AP-Dow Jones News Service HIROSHIMA, Japan -- In Hiroshima these days, a lanky, mustachioed Westerner is attracting as much attention as the landmark A-Bomb Dome, the gutted hall that stands as a painful reminder of the 1945 atomic bombing. That's because this 'gaijin,' or foreigner as the Japanese call them, is now serving as the new president of Mazda Motor Corp., the world's 12th largest automaker. More surprising still, he comes from one of the U.S. car companies that were forced to overhaul themselves years ago because of an invasion of better-made Japanese vehicles. A non-Japanese heading a major company was unheard of in Japan. But that was before Ford Motor Co. raised its stake in Mazda from 25% to 33.4% with a $500 million investment, virtually taking control of it and naming Henry Wallace, Ford's former Venezuela division boss, as its president. 'Of course, I know him. Everybody knows him,' Takuko Oyama, a Hiroshima liquor store owner, said of Wallace, the Scotsman who took office in June. 'The times are changing.' Oyama and other residents say the city badly needs a turnaround at Mazda, which was in the red for two years. Many are counting on Ford's global prowess to help bring that about. 'About one out of every five or six people in Hiroshima depend on Mazda for a livelihood,' said Mayor Takashi Hiraoka. 'Taxi drivers, shop-owners, we all need a strong Mazda.' So far, Wallace, 50, appears to be off to a good start. The Demio, the first car launched under him, is a hit. Taking just 15 months and a bargain $90 million to develop, mostly because of shared parts with other models, the Demio is one indication of Mazda's successful cost-cutting. 'In the beginning, we were worried. We're Mazda workers. We didn't want to become Ford workers,' said Tsutomu Omichi, an employee at a Hiroshima plant that is churning out Demios on its assembly line. 'But the future looks bright,' added Omichi, who is now working overtime for the first time in five years. To Wallace's credit, he has moved quickly to allay the initial fears in the community: Will he order massive American-style layoffs? Will Mazda's technological finesse dwindle into a small-car division of Ford? Wallace has repeatedly said there will be no layoffs. Instead, Mazda is trimming its work force through the accepted Japanese practice of waiting for retirements, keeping the system of lifetime employment intact. Wallace also has promised that Mazda will keep its own brand identity. He has tiptoed around unprofitable yet emotion-laden projects like the rotary engine, a symbol leftover from the heyday of sports cars, delaying any decision on scrapping it. He knows Mazda can't be turned around overnight. Except for the Demio, Mazda sales are still lagging. And Mazda continues to pay for its past mistakes in an overcrowded product line and muddled brand image. That means some analysts believe it is too early to say whether Mazda is on the comeback trail. 'I think it's extremely premature to make a decision on whether this was a good investment for Ford,' said Maryann Keller, auto analyst at Furman Selz Inc. in New York. 'The question of Mazda's future really lies in the ability of Mr. Wallace and Mazda management to recognize how the world has changed.' For now at least, Wallace is winning praise at Mazda for offering a more rational strategy for the troubled company. 'There are some advantages in being a Westerner that I can say and do things that will be more difficult for a Japanese because he's been in the company all his life,' Wallace said in an interview. He dismissed the cynics who suggest he may be tackling a hopeless job. Mazda will cut costs, prune its product line and invest in a lively advertising campaign in the U.S. and Japan. 'We're actually moving along,' Wallace said with a grin. 'The direction is the important thing.' It was no secret to anyone but to the old-guard management that Mazda needed to create cars that would sell, not just dazzle other engineers. For the first time, Mazda is gathering extensive data from customer surveys to develop models and slogans that sell. 'I told him we needed the three `E's at Mazda _ early decision-making, energetic action and excellent quality, and he listened. The old management probably would have laughed,' Mazda Workers' Union President Takeshi Morikawa said of Wallace. 'He has a clear policy and vision,' said Mazda executive Tadahiko Takiguchi. 'He has made the problems at Mazda very clear.' Wallace appears to have proved such a boost for the Mazda image that the company ran the risk of placing his picture in full-page newspaper ads along with an open letter to consumers promising that its cars will live up to a challenge. His subdued, serious demeanor has also won Wallace points in a conformist society where the stereotypical American-style executive would have been too aggressive. 'Japan is far more relationship-oriented. Harmony plays a much bigger role,' Wallace said. And the care that the new Mazda president has taken to respect tradition has paid off. He is respectful to elders and makes the rounds of tables at parties pouring drinks like a waiter. 'He's so likable. He deals with people in a Japanese way,' said Keijiro Kurata, president of the Hiroshima Chamber of Commerce. But at Mazda, a Hiroshima family business founded in 1920, the old Japanese way also is being changed. Today, meetings resemble international negotiations where executives sit in a circle before microphones connected to a simultaneous interpreting booth. All company documents are in both English and Japanese. Internationalization will extend to business deals as well, with Mazda buying more foreign-made parts to cut costs. -- Pozdrawia S.D. mailto:nyce_guy@irc.pl
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Andrzej "Andy" Zdzitowiecki
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 23:23
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 23:23
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"S.D." <nyce_guy@irc.pl> wrote: >A non-Japanese heading a major company was unheard of in Japan. But that >was before Ford Motor Co. raised its stake in Mazda from 25% to 33.4% with >a $500 million investment, virtually taking control of it and naming Henry >Wallace, Ford's former Venezuela division boss, as its president. Tak jak napisalem juz wczesniej, Ford jest najwiekszym udzialowcem Mazdy. Co, prawdopodobnie ze wzgledu na rozdrobnienie pozostalych udzialow co pozwala mu na "virtually taking control" (zwracam uwage na slowo "virtually"). Prosze zwrocic uwage ze poza Fordem jest 76,6% akcji Mazdy. To sie jeszcze nie nazywa byc wlascicielem. Andy **************************************** * Latanie to sztuka, a raczej sztuczka.* * Dowcip polega na tym, by nauczyc sie * * rzucac na ziemie i nie trafic w nia. * **************************************** * Andrzej "Andy" Zdzitowiecki * * Sales Director - 4PI Analyst SC * **************************************** * Email: azdzit@fourpi.com.pl * * http://www.atm.com.pl/~4piaz * ****************************************
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: S.D.
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 02:53
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 02:53
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-- Pozdrawia S.D. mailto:nyce_guy@irc.pl Andrzej "Andy" Zdzitowiecki <azdzit@fourpi.com.pl> wrote in article <55j937$mei@info.nask.pl>... > "S.D." <nyce_guy@irc.pl> wrote: > > >A non-Japanese heading a major company was unheard of in Japan. But that > >was before Ford Motor Co. raised its stake in Mazda from 25% to 33.4% with > >a $500 million investment, virtually taking control of it and naming Henry > >Wallace, Ford's former Venezuela division boss, as its president. > > Tak jak napisalem juz wczesniej, Ford jest najwiekszym udzialowcem > Mazdy. Co, prawdopodobnie ze wzgledu na rozdrobnienie pozostalych > udzialow co pozwala mu na "virtually taking control" (zwracam uwage na > slowo "virtually"). Prosze zwrocic uwage ze poza Fordem jest 76,6% > akcji Mazdy. To sie jeszcze nie nazywa byc wlascicielem. > > Andy > Jak mozesz obsadzic CEO to znaczy ze masz pelna kontrole i jestes wlacicielem.
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Andrzej "Andy" Zdzitowiecki
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:18
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:18
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"S.D." <nyce_guy@irc.pl> wrote: >> >Jak mozesz obsadzic CEO to znaczy ze masz pelna kontrole i jestes >wlacicielem. Tak. A zgromadzenie wspolnikow moze go spokojnie wywalic. Andy **************************************** * Latanie to sztuka, a raczej sztuczka.* * Dowcip polega na tym, by nauczyc sie * * rzucac na ziemie i nie trafic w nia. * **************************************** * Andrzej "Andy" Zdzitowiecki * * Sales Director - 4PI Analyst SC * **************************************** * Email: azdzit@fourpi.com.pl * * http://www.atm.com.pl/~4piaz * ****************************************
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Jarek Lis
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:20
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:20
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Andrzej "Andy" Zdzitowiecki <azdzit@fourpi.com.pl> wrote: : "S.D." <nyce_guy@irc.pl> wrote: : >Jak mozesz obsadzic CEO to znaczy ze masz pelna kontrole i jestes : >wlacicielem. : Tak. A zgromadzenie wspolnikow moze go spokojnie wywalic. Spokojnie jak spokojnie. Byl w Polsce przypadek, ze wlasciciel nie mogl zmienic prezesa, bo jego klika z premedytacja i zgodnie z prawem udaremniala zgromadzenie zgromadzenia wspolnikow. Jarek.
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Grzegorz Bodaszewski
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:19
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:19
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Jarek Lis <lis@ict.pwr.wroc.pl> wrote: >Spokojnie jak spokojnie. Byl w Polsce przypadek, ze wlasciciel nie mogl >zmienic prezesa, bo jego klika z premedytacja i zgodnie z prawem >udaremniala zgromadzenie zgromadzenia wspolnikow. A jak to mozna zrobic zgodnie z prawem ? Nie zwolanie zgromadzenia jest niezgodne. Nie stawienie sie - wysyla sie wspolnikom zaproszenia listem ZPO, jezeli sie nie stawia, to ich strata - nie maja glosu. Chyba, ze mieli w statucie jakis zapis, ze prezesa mozna odwolac przy obecnosci co najmniej X>n kapitalu zakladowego. Jedyny sposob udaremnienia walnego zgromadzenia, jaki mi przychodzi do glowy, to wspolnicy bez adresu, czyli nie mozna wyslac listu poleconego. Pozdrowienia, Grzegorz Bodaszewski == warta_olsztyn@telbank.pl
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Jarek Lis
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:02
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 17:02
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Grzegorz Bodaszewski <warta_olsztyn@telbank.pl> wrote: : Jarek Lis <lis@ict.pwr.wroc.pl> wrote: : >Spokojnie jak spokojnie. Byl w Polsce przypadek, ze wlasciciel nie mogl : >zmienic prezesa, bo jego klika z premedytacja i zgodnie z prawem : >udaremniala zgromadzenie zgromadzenia wspolnikow. : A jak to mozna zrobic zgodnie z prawem ? : Nie zwolanie zgromadzenia jest niezgodne. : Nie stawienie sie - wysyla sie wspolnikom zaproszenia listem ZPO, : jezeli sie nie stawia, to ich strata - nie maja glosu. : Chyba, ze mieli w statucie jakis zapis, ze prezesa mozna odwolac : przy obecnosci co najmniej X>n kapitalu zakladowego. Wlasnie jakos tak. Sprytni znajda odpowiednie przepisy. : Jedyny sposob udaremnienia walnego zgromadzenia, jaki mi przychodzi : do glowy, to wspolnicy bez adresu, czyli nie mozna wyslac listu : poleconego. W tym przypadku (sprzed paru lat) nie pomagal nawet wyrok sadu ... nakazujacy odbycie zgromadzenia. To tak jak z punktami karnymi i prawem jazdy. Jak juz czlowiek ich uzbiera, to wladza ma klopot, co zrobic zeby laskawie przyszedl i prawo jazdy oddal.. J.
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Marek Proga
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:07
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:07
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> : A jak to mozna zrobic zgodnie z prawem ? > : Nie zwolanie zgromadzenia jest niezgodne. > : Nie stawienie sie - wysyla sie wspolnikom zaproszenia listem ZPO, > : jezeli sie nie stawia, to ich strata - nie maja glosu. > : Chyba, ze mieli w statucie jakis zapis, ze prezesa mozna odwolac > : przy obecnosci co najmniej X>n kapitalu zakladowego. > > Wlasnie jakos tak. Sprytni znajda odpowiednie przepisy. > > : Jedyny sposob udaremnienia walnego zgromadzenia, jaki mi przychodzi > : do glowy, to wspolnicy bez adresu, czyli nie mozna wyslac listu > : poleconego. > > W tym przypadku (sprzed paru lat) nie pomagal nawet wyrok sadu ... > nakazujacy odbycie zgromadzenia. > > To tak jak z punktami karnymi i prawem jazdy. Jak juz czlowiek ich uzbiera, > to wladza ma klopot, co zrobic zeby laskawie przyszedl i prawo jazdy oddal.. > > J. Za pytajcie Duchnowskiego jakie jaja mozna w sadzie. Byly ostatnio takie procesy co sie caly swiat smial. Marek
Re: Ford and Mazda - true story for sentimental europeans.
Author: Radoslaw Poplawski
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:22
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:22
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"S.D." <nyce_guy@irc.pl> napisal(a): >> Tak jak napisalem juz wczesniej, Ford jest najwiekszym udzialowcem >> Mazdy. Co, prawdopodobnie ze wzgledu na rozdrobnienie pozostalych >> udzialow co pozwala mu na "virtually taking control" (zwracam uwage na >> slowo "virtually"). Prosze zwrocic uwage ze poza Fordem jest 76,6% >> akcji Mazdy. To sie jeszcze nie nazywa byc wlascicielem. >> >> Andy >> >Jak mozesz obsadzic CEO to znaczy ze masz pelna kontrole i jestes >wlacicielem. Jestes dupa, a nie... wlascicielem! Poucz sie ekonomii. Radoslaw Poplawski (Wroclaw: radekp@geocities.com) WWW: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3416 - Dzialam, wiec jestem... - - Nie dzialam, wiec mnie nie ma? (TPSA) -
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