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5 total messages Started by tomstdenis Thu, 01 Sep 2005 09:57
dear pl.comp.tlumaczenia readers
#7124
Author: tomstdenis
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 09:57
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It's getting a bit tiresome seeing one misguided American after another with 
their cutsie little yellow or red-white-blue ribbons on their outsized SUVs. 
Yeah, I guess it's the thing to do; maybe part of that whole soccer-mom 
culture. Unfortunately, the only thing they demonstrate is that the person 
behind the wheel is a clueless, gullible, misguided, nitwit. 

If foreign invaders landed on our soil, as we have done in Iraq, I would be 
the first one to take up arms and repel them. (I suppose that would make me 
an 'insurgent' by OUR logic.) This, and other aggressive governments have 
always done their utmost to make it APPEAR as if committing yourself to kill 
in feuds on distant shores that have nothing to do with the welfare of the 
citizenry is somehow patriotic. 

It is not. 

Enlisting in the armed forces, in the absence of a real and impending 
foreign threat, is no different that hiring yourself as a paid assassin . . 
the only difference is, you're not getting paid enough. But let's take a 
realistic look at exactly WHO joins up in an all-volunteer army. 

The first group are those who join (during peacetime) for the benefits: to 
get an education, or because it seems a reasonable career path. Consider 
carefully! Realize that you are gambling with your humanity. Once you sign 
that form, you sign away your right to say: "No, that is an atrocity." You 
put your abilities, including the ability to kill, at the disposal of proven 
liars, psychopaths . . . enemies of humanity. Do you think that every German 
soldier in World War II who helped load Jews into cattle cars was a 
cold-blooded killer? Most were poor kids, just like you, who got caught up 
in the patriotic frenzy. Once you're in, you're IN. You lose the ability to 
stop killing until they tell you so. This not only makes you less than 
human, it makes you less than an animal, for even the animals retain their 
freedom of self determination. 

The second group are the simple minded, who fall for patriotic entreaties 
about  defending democracy, Mom, apple pie; in other words, all the 
traditional government propaganda. Do you think Soviet lads subjugated their 
neighbors throughout the world because they thought the Soviet Union was an 
EVIL empire? No, they were fighting for MOM, and whatever passes for apple 
pie in Russia. Step back and examine the lies your government is handing 
you, and ask yourself if they have the ring of truth. Do you want to be one 
of the murderers in uniform who opened up on their fellow citizens at Kent 
State? When you put on that uniform, you give up all autonomy, and become 
nothing more than a weapon, to be used for whatever evil purposes the 
scoundrels in government demand (and, if you look carefully, you will 
discover that the only interests THEY serve are those of the big businesses 
that own them.) 

Finally, you have the hard-core psychopaths. These are the people who WANT 
to kill. Murder, torture, rape; THESE are the American values upon which 
THIS group is focused. The cause doesn't matter, they're after the thrill 
that only warfare can provide. 

Just remember: killing for George W. Bush, or for George H.W. Bush, or for 
Lyndon B. Johnson, or for Richard M. Nixon is not the same as defending 
yourself, your family, your friends, or your country. Don't be a dupe. Don't 
Enlist! 

Remember -- supporting the troops means supporting Bush aggression, 
profiteering, and war crimes. Here's an idea: why not take those ribbons, 
dip them in blood, and mail them to the White House? 

- -- 
Tom St.Denis 

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Re: dear pl.comp.tlumaczenia readers
#7125
Author: pix
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:51
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Użytkownik <tomstdenis@gmail.com> napisał w wiadomości
news:caabd66a.f36762be.tomstdenis@gmail.com...
>
> It's getting a bit tiresome seeing one misguided American after another

ciach/ciach/ciach

czy ta grupa nie jest juz moderowana?
co te nawiedzone posty mają wspólnego z pl.comp.tlumaczenia i dlaczego są
przepuszczane?

pix
Re: dear pl.comp.tlumaczenia readers
#7126
Author: Jarek Hirny
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:12
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On 1 Sep 05 11:51:00 GMT, pix wrote:

> czy ta grupa nie jest juz moderowana?

Jest.

> co te nawiedzone posty mają wspólnego z pl.comp.tlumaczenia i dlaczego są
> przepuszczane?

Nie są. Same przechodzą. Niestety, jest taka możliwość.

Jarek
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Re: dear pl.comp.tlumaczenia readers
#7127
Author: Jarek Hirny
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:17
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On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:12:08 +0200, Jarek Hirny wrote:

>> co te nawiedzone posty mają wspólnego z pl.comp.tlumaczenia i dlaczego są
>> przepuszczane?
> 
> Nie są. Same przechodzą. Niestety, jest taka możliwość.

(Z lepszych wiadomości: dzięki eloyowi wróciło normalne wątkowanie. Hail!)

Jarek
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Re: dear pl.comp.tlumaczenia readers
#7128
Author: Andrzej P. Wozniak
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:38
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Osoba podpisana jako Jarek Hirny <agnus@hell.pl> w artykule
<news:wos1ql817x7b$.dlg@agnus.eu.org> pisze:

> On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:12:08 +0200, Jarek Hirny wrote:
>
>>> co te nawiedzone posty mają wspólnego z pl.comp.tlumaczenia i
>>> dlaczego są przepuszczane?
>> Nie są. Same przechodzą. Niestety, jest taka możliwość.

Jest też możliwość ich anulowania, z której już niektóre grupy moderowane
(np. prhn) korzystają.

> (Z lepszych wiadomości: dzięki eloyowi wróciło normalne wątkowanie. Hail!)

W takim razie zgłoś do Piotra Kucharskiego dane niezbędne dla włączenia
cancelbota, nazywa się modcancel:

http://groups.google.pl/group/pl.news.admin/browse_frm/thread/568a8f7b0b0569f6/

-- 
Andrzej P. Woźniak  uszer@pochta.onet.pl  (zamień miejscami z<->h w adresie)
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