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Started by Hubert
Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:02
Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:02
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:02
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Witam serdecznie,
Sorry za małego crossposta, ale sprawa jest dosyć nietypowa i muszę
przyznać, że nie wiedziałem, dla której z wybranych przeze mnie grup
jest bardziej właściwa, więc bardzo proszę o "rozpatrzenie" mojej
sprawy. :-)
Mianowicie: bardzo chciałbym mieć możliwość zamieniania tonów niskich z
wysokimi w pliku *.WAV (ewent. w pliku dźwiękowym innego formatu) w
taki sposób, aby uzyskać plik wyjściowy taki, jak kodowany dźwięk w
dawnym Canal+ analogowym lub z powrotem zmienić go na normalny dźwięk
(dekodować).
Jaki program potrafiłby to zrobić automatycznie? (tzn. jako jedną
operację, bez "sztukowania") :-)
Pozdrawiam Grupę
Hubert
P.s.: Powyższe zamierzam wykorzystać wyłącznie do nauki i zabawy. :)
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Mariusz Kruk
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:53
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:53
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["Followup-To:" header set to pl.comp.os.ms-windows.winnt.] epsilon$ while read LINE; do echo "$LINE"; done < "Hubert" >Mianowicie: bardzo chciałbym mieć możliwość zamieniania tonów niskich z >wysokimi w pliku *.WAV (ewent. w pliku dźwiękowym innego formatu) w >taki sposób, aby uzyskać plik wyjściowy taki, jak kodowany dźwięk w >dawnym Canal+ analogowym lub z powrotem zmienić go na normalny dźwięk >(dekodować). Co to znaczy "zamieniania tonów niskich z wysokimi"? Jak to sobie wyobrażasz? -- d'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'Yb Microsoft Office 2000: Portfel mniej się `b Kruk@epsilon.eu.org d' zużywa d' http://epsilon.eu.org/ Yb `b,-,.,-,.,-,.,-,.,-,.,-,.d'
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Bonawentura
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:11
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:11
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Witam! Ja zrozumiałem z wypowiedzi Huberta, że chodzi o coś (program) działający jak skrambler, który jest używany defakto do "maskowania" sygnału mowy w torach fonicznych np. radiotelefonów. Wtedy tylko osoby posiadające te kodery/dekodery będą się rozumiały, dla pozostałych użytkowników sygnał jest "zamaskowany" czyli niezrozumiały. Kodowanie sygnałów analogowych odbywa się najczęściej poprzez właśnie inwersję pasma (zamiana niskich i wysokich tonów - tak było w pytaniu). Dokładniej jest to skrambler o zmiennym podziale pasma (Variable Split-Band). Jest to dokładniej wyjaśnione w EP9/96. Układ elektroniczny który to realizuje to np FX224. Pozdrawiam. Mariusz.
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:08
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:08
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Użytkownik "Bonawentura" <bonawentura2@o2.pl> napisał w wiadomości
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> pasma (zamiana niskich i wysokich tonów - tak było w pytaniu).
> Dokładniej jest to skrambler o zmiennym podziale pasma (Variable
> Split-Band). Jest to dokładniej wyjaśnione w EP9/96.
> Układ elektroniczny który to realizuje to np FX224.
Serdeczne dzięki za odpowiedź! Dokładnie o to chodziło! Przyznam
jednak, że trudno mi będzie na tej podstawie znaleźć konkretny program,
dlatego proszę uprzejmie o jego nazwę. :)
> Pozdrawiam. Mariusz.
Pozdrawiam,
Hubert
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:59
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:59
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Użytkownik "Bonawentura" <bonawentura2@o2.pl> napisał w wiadomości
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> Układ elektroniczny który to realizuje to np FX224.
A jeśli nie ma programu, tylko sprzęt, to prosiłbym z kolei o link, pod
którym mógłbym takie urządzenie kupić. Może być zagraniczny, byle
przysyłali do Polski i można zapłacić kartą przez Internet.
> Pozdrawiam. Mariusz.
Pozdrawiam,
Hubert
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Mariusz Kruk
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:55
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:55
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["Followup-To:" header set to pl.comp.os.ms-windows.winnt.] epsilon$ while read LINE; do echo "$LINE"; done < "Bonawentura" >Dokładniej jest to skrambler o zmiennym podziale pasma (Variable >Split-Band). Jest to dokładniej wyjaśnione w EP9/96. >Układ elektroniczny który to realizuje to np FX224. Hmm... doczytałem sobie o tym FX214/FX224 i widzę, że on robi podział pasma i modulację osobno każdej części na różnych nośnych. Tylko nie do końca rozumiem jaką modulację. -- /\-\/\-\/\-\/\-\/\-\/\-\/\ You meant to type ## instead of #, \ Kruk@epsilon.eu.org / right?(TeX) / http://epsilon.eu.org/ \ \/-/\/-/\/-/\/-/\/-/\/-/\/
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Bonawentura
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:49
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:49
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Dnia 12-01-2008 18:59, Użytkownik Hubert napisał: > A jeśli nie ma programu, tylko sprzęt, to prosiłbym z kolei o link, pod > którym mógłbym takie urządzenie kupić. Może być zagraniczny, byle > przysyłali do Polski i można zapłacić kartą przez Internet. Pytasz - masz: http://www.ascom.com.pl/produkty_pl/omnisec_pl.htm Ale czy to się opłaca do "zabawy i w celach poznawczych"? Pozdrawiam. Mariusz.
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:39
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:39
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Użytkownik "Bonawentura" <bonawentura2@o2.pl> napisał w wiadomości
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> Dnia 12-01-2008 18:59, Użytkownik Hubert napisał:
> Pytasz - masz: http://www.ascom.com.pl/produkty_pl/omnisec_pl.htm
Serdecznie dziękuję! Bardzo mi pomogłeś!
> Ale czy to się opłaca do "zabawy i w celach poznawczych"?
Zależy, jaka cena :-)
> Pozdrawiam. Mariusz.
Pozdrawiam,
Hubert
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:10
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:10
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because they have an inward disposition entirely holy, and all that they hear of our religion conforms to it. They feel that a God has made them; they desire only to love God; they desire to hate themselves only. They feel that they have no strength in themselves; that they are incapable of coming to God; and that if God does not come to them, they can have no communion with Him. And they hear our religion say that men must love God only, and hate self only; but that, all being corrupt and unworthy of God, God made Himself man to unite Himself to us. No more is required to persuade men who have this disposition in their heart, and who have this knowledge of their duty and of their inefficiency. 287. Those whom we see to be Christians without the knowledge of the prophets and evidences, nevertheless judge of their religion as well as those who have that knowledge. They judge of it by the heart, as others judge of it by the intellect. God himself inclines them to believe, and thus they are most effectively convinced. I confess indeed that one of those Christians who believe without proofs will not, perhaps, be capable of convincing an infidel who will say the same of himself. But those who know the proofs of religion will prove without difficulty that such a believer is truly inspired by God, though he cannot prove it h
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:10
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:10
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such a manner as cannot be perfectly expressed after them. Their sense of their exceeding littleness and vileness, and their disposition to abase themselves before God, has appeared to be great in proportion to their light and joy. Such persons amongst us as have been thus distinguished with the most extraordinary discoveries, have commonly nowise appeared with the assuming, self-conceited, and self-sufficient airs of enthusiasts, but exceedingly the contrary. They are eminent for a spirit of meekness, modesty, self-diffidence, and a low opinion of themselves. No persons appear so sensible of their need of instruction and so eager to receive it, as some of them; nor so ready to think others better than themselves. Those that have been considered as converted amongst us, have generally manifested a longing to lie low and in the dust before God; withal complaining of their not being able to lie low enough. They speak much of their sense of excellency in the way of salvation by free and sovereign grace, through the righteousness of Christ alone; and how it is with delight that they renounce their own righteousness, and rejoice in having no account made of it. Many have expressed themselves to this purpose, that it would lessen the satisfaction they hope for in heaven to have it by their own righteousness, or in any other way than as bestowed by free grace, and for Christ's sake alone. They speak much of the inexpressibleness of what they experience, how their words fail, so that they cannot declare it. And particularly they speak with exceeding admiration of the superlative excellency of that pleasure and delight which they
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:55
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:55
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against loving them, with the command to worship God only, and to love Him only, which is the same thing, and, finally, that the Messiah came not for them; whereas those who therein seek God find Him, without any contradiction, with the command to love Him only, and that the Messiah came in the time foretold, to give them the blessings which they ask. Thus the Jews had miracles and prophecies, which they saw fulfilled, and the teaching of their law was to worship and love God only; it was also perpetual. Thus it had all the marks of the true religion; and so it was. But the Jewish teaching must be distinguished from the teaching of the Jewish law. Now the Jewish teaching was not true, although it had miracles and prophecy and perpetuity, because it had not this other point of worshipping and loving God only. 676. The veil, which is upon these books for the Jews, is there also for evil Christians and for all who do not hate themselves. But how well disposed men are to understand them and to know Jesus Christ, when they truly hate themselves! 677. A type conveys absence and presence, pleasure and pain. A cipher has a double meaning, one clear and one in which it is said that the meaning is hidden. 678. Types.--A portrait conveys absence and presence, pleasure and pain. The reality excludes absence and pain. To know if the law and the sacrifices are a reality or a type, we must see if the prophets, in speaking of these things, confined their view and their thought to them, so that they saw only the old covenant; or if they saw therein something else of which they were the representation, for in a portrait we see the thing figured. For this we need only examine what they say of them. When they say that it will be eternal, do th
Re: Zamiana tonów niskich z wysokimi
Author: Hubert
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:47
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:47
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question in philosophy; but not here, where it concerns your all. And yet, after a trifling reflection of this kind, we go to amuse ourselves, etc. Let us inquire of this same religion whether it does not give a reason for this obscurity; perhaps it will teach it to us. 227. Order by dialogues.--What ought I to do? I see only darkness everywhere. Shall I believe I am nothing? Shall I believe I am God? "All things change and succeed each other." You are mistaken; there is... 228. Objection of atheists: "But we have no light." 229. This is what I see and what troubles me. I look on all sides, and I see only darkness everywhere. Nature presents to me nothing which is not matter of doubt and concern. If I saw nothing there which revealed a Divinity, I would come to a negative conclusion; if I saw everywhere the signs of a Creator, I would remain peacefully in faith. But, seeing too much to deny and too little to be sure, I am in a state to be pitied; wherefore I have a hundred times wished that if a God maintains Nature, she should testify to Him unequivocally, and
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