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Started by M.G.
Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:14
atak ip-mac
Author: M.G.
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:14
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:14
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witam w mojej sieci wydawalo sie ze uslugodaca ma problemy z wydajnoscia serwera. Jednak tlumaczyl to wirusem, ktory zmienia MAC zaatakowanego komputera, podszywajac sie np pod moj mac. Nastepnie caly ruch ja-brama oparty na switchach kierowany jest do niego, jego karta nastepnie wysyla pakiety do mnie, zeby wszystko wygladalo OK. Jaki jest objaw: pingi bramy wachaja sie od 50 do 2000 ms. Teraz zrobilem proby zmieniajac MAC swojej karty, przez kilkadziesiat sekund pingi sa <1ms potem znowu wskakuja na setki ms. Jak zabezpieczyc sie przed tego typu wlamaniem pomijajc PPPoE. Na razie provider nie chce tego wprowadzac ze wzgledu na uslugi w sieci likalnej pozdrawiam Mirek
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: Lemat
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:26
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:26
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M.G. wrote: > witam > w mojej sieci wydawalo sie ze uslugodaca ma problemy z wydajnoscia > serwera. Jednak tlumaczyl to wirusem, ktory zmienia MAC zaatakowanego > komputera, podszywajac sie np pod moj mac. Nastepnie caly ruch ja-brama > oparty na switchach kierowany jest do niego, jego karta nastepnie wysyla > pakiety do mnie, zeby wszystko wygladalo OK. > Jaki jest objaw: pingi bramy wachaja sie od 50 do 2000 ms. Teraz zrobilem > proby zmieniajac MAC swojej karty, przez kilkadziesiat sekund pingi sa > <1ms potem znowu wskakuja na setki ms. > Jak zabezpieczyc sie przed tego typu wlamaniem pomijajc PPPoE. Na razie > provider nie chce tego wprowadzac ze wzgledu na uslugi w sieci likalnej 1) switche zarządzalne przypisujące numer MAC do portu. 2) prowider z jajami, który umie wyśledzić konkretną wtyczkę - i co najważniejsze - ją wyjąć. -- Pozdrawiam Lemat
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: Brodi
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:27
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:27
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M.G. pisze: > witam > Jak zabezpieczyc sie przed tego typu wlamaniem pomijajc PPPoE. Na razie w zwykłej sieci opartej o switche jedyne wyjście to odseparować klientów od siebie czyli switche zarządzalne z filtrowaniem MAC + ewentualnie podział sieci na segmenty. Arpwatch też pomaga, jak widzisz że jakiś klient kombinuje to wiesz gdzie szukać. Wystarczy że ktoś wpisze sobie ręcznie IP bramy jako swój IP i masz przesrane.
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: spa
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:49
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:49
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M.G. wrote: > witam > w mojej sieci wydawalo sie ze uslugodaca ma problemy z wydajnoscia serwera. > Jednak tlumaczyl to wirusem, ktory zmienia MAC zaatakowanego komputera, > podszywajac sie np pod moj mac. Nastepnie caly ruch ja-brama oparty na > switchach kierowany jest do niego, jego karta nastepnie wysyla pakiety do > mnie, zeby wszystko wygladalo OK. Wpisz sobie mac bramy jako static. Zapuść sniffera i zobacz jaki konkretnie pakiety wysyła.
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: M.G.
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:49
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:49
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ignorant of its nature. As we know it to be false that numbers are finite, it is therefore true that there is an infinity in number. But we do not know what it is. It is false that it is even, it is false that it is odd; for the addition of a unit can make no change in its nature. Yet it is a number, and every number is odd or even (this is certainly true of every finite number). So we may well know that there is a God without knowing what He is. Is there not one substantial truth, seeing there are so many things which are not the truth itself? We know then the existence and nature of the finite, because we also are finite and have extension. We know the existence of the infinite and are ignorant of its nature, because it has extension like us, but not limits like us. But we know neither the existence nor the nature of God, because He has neither extension nor limits. But by faith we know His existence; in glory we shall know His nature. Now, I have already shown that we may well know the existence of a thing, without knowing its nature. Let us now speak according to natural lights. If there is a God, He is infinitely incomprehensible, since, having neither parts nor limits, He has no affinity to us. We are then incapable of knowing either what He is or if He is. This being so, who will dare to undertake the decision of the question? Not we, who have no affinity to Him. Who then will blame Christians for not being able to give a reason for their belief, since they profess a religion for which they cannot give a reason? They declare, in expounding it to the world, that it is a foolishness, stultitiam;28 and then you complain that they do not prove it! If they pr
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: Lemat
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:06
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:06
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furnace is now hot, ready to receive them; the flames do now rage and glow. The glittering sword is whet, and held over them, and the pit hath opened its mouth under them. The devil stands ready to fall upon them, and seize them as his own, at what moment God shall permit him. They belong to him; he has their souls in his possession, and under his dominion. The scripture represents them as his goods, Luke 11:12. The devils watch them; they are ever by them at their right hand; they stand waiting for them, like greedy hungry lions that see their prey, and expect to have it, but are for the present kept back. If God should withdraw his hand, by which they are restrained, they would in one moment fly upon their poor souls. The old serpent is gaping for them; hell opens its mouth wide to receive them; and if God should permit it, they would be hastily swallowed up and lost. There are in the souls of wicked men those hellish principles reigning, that would presently kindle and flame out into hell fire, if it were not for
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: M.G.
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:36
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:36
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this discourse in hell? And it would be a wonder, if some that are now present should not be in hell in a very short time, even before this year is out. And it would be no wonder if some persons, that now sit here, in some seats of this meeting-house, in health, quiet and secure, should be there before tomorrow morning. Those of you that finally continue in a natural condition, that shall keep out of hell longest will be there in a little time! your damnation does not slumber; it will come swiftly, and, in all probability, very suddenly upon many of you. You have reason to wonder that you are not already in hell. It is doubtless the case of some whom you have seen and known, that never deserved hell more than you, and that heretofore appeared as likely to have been now alive as you. Their case is past all hope; they are crying in extreme misery and perfect despair; but here you are in the land of the living and in the house of God, and have an opportunity to obtain salvation. What would not those poor damned hopeless souls give for one day's opportunity such as you now enjoy! And now you have an extraordinary opportunity, a day wherein Christ has thrown the door of mercy wide open, and stands in calling and crying with a loud voice to poor sinners; a day wherein many are flocking to him, and pressing into the kingdom of God. Many are daily coming from the east, west, north and south; many that were very lately in the same miserable condition that you are in, are now in a happy state, with their hearts filled with love to him who has loved them, and washed them from their sins in his own blood, and rejoicing in hope of the glory of God. How awfu
Re: atak ip-mac
Author: Brodi
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:20
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:20
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infinite like nature. If we are well informed, we understand that, as nature has graven her image and that of her Author on all things, they almost all partake of her double infinity. Thus we see that all the sciences are infinite in the extent of their researches. For who doubts that geometry, for instance, has an infinite infinity of problems to solve? They are also infinite in the multitude and fineness of their premises; for it is clear that those which are put forward as ultimate are not self-supporting, but are based on others which, again having others for their support, do not permit of finality. But we represent some as ultimate for reason, in the same way as in regard to material objects we call that an indivisible point beyond which our senses can no longer perceive anything, although by its nature it is infinitely divisible. Of these two Infinites of science, that of greatness is the most palpable, and hence a few persons have pretended to know all things. "I will speak of the whole," said Democritus. But the infinitely little is the least obvious. Philosophers have much oftener claimed to have reached it, and it is here they have all stumbled. This has given rise to such common titles as First Principles, Principles of Philosophy, and the like, as ostentatious
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