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Started by Johnny
Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: Johnny
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
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Hi, I currently have Windows 98 and play a lot of games. I have a Voodoo3 with a SB Live card. Should I upgrade to Win2000 or will I find a lot of compatibility problems? What are the pros/cons of such a move? thanks Yannis sorry for the crossposting. I am just trying to collect as many opinions as I can...
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: NightSky 421
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:00
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Johnny <ch9...@central.ntua.gr> wrote in message news:8c8n4n$20gg$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr... > Hi, > > I currently have Windows 98 and play a lot of games. I have a Voodoo3 with a > SB Live card. Should I upgrade to Win2000 or will I find a lot of > compatibility problems? > What are the pros/cons of such a move? > > thanks > Yannis > sorry for the crossposting. I am just trying to collect as many opinions as > I can... > If you have a lot of games, you would be making a mistake going for Windows 2000. It is meant as an upgrade to Windows NT and I don't ever recall a lot of gamers as being devoted to Windows NT. I suggest you wait until Windows Me comes out later this year. That's definitely what I'll be doing because I see no reason to change from my current Windows 98 first edition until that time. The reasoning being that all of my games run great, so why would I want to rock the boat and risk a lot of compatibility problems just to get the newest version of Windows? (which, to me, "proves" nothing). ~NightSky 421~
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: Thundercok
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:00
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No no no. If you are primarily a gamer, you want Win98. Win2000 is for business. Security etc. It will not improve your gaming, just make it more difficult to install and run, as well as being behind the curve on DirectX and hardware compatibility a bit. -- Jim Johnny <ch9...@central.ntua.gr> wrote in message news:8c8n4n$20gg$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr... > Hi, > > I currently have Windows 98 and play a lot of games. I have a Voodoo3 with a > SB Live card. Should I upgrade to Win2000 or will I find a lot of > compatibility problems? > What are the pros/cons of such a move? > > thanks > Yannis > sorry for the crossposting. I am just trying to collect as many opinions as > I can... > >
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: s... Steve Simmons
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
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"Thundercok" <smo...@americanisp.com> writes: >No no no. If you are primarily a gamer, you want Win98. Win2000 is for >business . . . I must respectfully disagree. During most of W2Ks development cycle MS said that NT5 was to be the general replacement for both NT4 and the windows line. This statement was changed only near the end, when the feature set was relatively stable. From the start, NT5/W2K was intended as a *general* platform. IMHO, MicroSoft is now advertising as separate and special so as not to kill the W98 sales and to avoid the issues of forcing the entire product and user base to port to W2K. As usual, they bit off more than they could chew and are now pretending they never said the things they once said. In this they're little different from any other large s/w company. But IMHO (and in my limited experience; not a big-time gamer) W2K works fine as a gaming platform - for the games that I own happen to own and have tried under it. Older voodoo (v2) support is terrible, but IMHO this is a problem with 3dfx, not W2K or MS. My G200 card works great.
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: Rob Pollard
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
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I get the feeling that Microsoft changed Win2000 from a general platform to a business platform at the last minute because they had MAJOR problems that were unlikely to be resolved within the perceived release date of the product. THAT is way they are now waiting for the next generation of O/S, so that they can have more time. The impression I got was they were having major problems with device drivers. Obviously this area needs to be as good as Win98 to allow games to play games on a variety of systems. -- Rob 'FlashPan' Pollard 53rd VFS Warhammers 20th TFW
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: Morten Wennevik
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Johnny <ch9...@central.ntua.gr> wrote: : Hi, : I currently have Windows 98 and play a lot of games. I have a Voodoo3 with a : SB Live card. Should I upgrade to Win2000 or will I find a lot of : compatibility problems? : What are the pros/cons of such a move? : thanks : Yannis : sorry for the crossposting. I am just trying to collect as many opinions as : I can... Well, if .gr is greece, it appears that a ban of win2000 will be enforced in Europe as of Mon 3. April and to July 1. You may be able to get hold of it for a few days after apr 3rd but probably not for long. I expect some companies panicing and bying what's left. Also, as mentioned in another post. Win2000 is not the next version of win95/98, but rather the next version of Win NT (NT 5.0). There will be a new version for win95/98 later. Don't know when. Personally, Win95 works great for me, and I never even considered upgrading to win98, and win2000 is definitely out of the question due to horrible dos emulation (I suppose there is something about growing up with DOS 5 and no Win 3.0)
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: Christoph Nahr
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
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On 3 Apr 2000 04:35:29 +0200, Morten Wennevik <mp...@alfred.uib.no> wrote: >Well, if .gr is greece, it appears that a ban of win2000 will be enforced in Europe >as of Mon 3. April and to July 1. You may be able to get hold of it for a few days >after apr 3rd but probably not for long. I expect some companies panicing and >bying what's left. Isn't this post two days late? :-) -- Chris Nahr (christoph.nahr@uumail.xxde, remove xx to reply by e-mail) Please reply either on Usenet or by e-mail but not both!
Re: Should I upgrade to Windows 2000??? (partly off topic)
Author: scam...
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:00
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:00
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Not particularly accurate. Windows 2000 is an evolution of the Windows NT kernel, which is the reason that Microsoft are positioning it to take over NT's role. The move allows them to sell 2000 for a premium, and later release "millennium" which they can sell to the end user, allowing them to make more money. Windows 2000 is a step up from Win98 in overall design, not only is it a true 32 bit OS, it does not have a legacy kernel, as well as the windowing system being integrated into the kernel, which means 2 OS calls for every window request as opposed to 4, and the calls in kernel mode, rather than user, read 6ns as opposed to 12ms, a factor of 2 million. Quite a bit faster. Win 2000 also finally offers memory protection, so like NT it is virtually uncrashable, as opposed to 95/98 whose lack of memory protection allowed any process to overwrite kernel memory and crash the machine, or at the very least overwrite memory or use a resource that was not allocated to it and terminate itself or the process whose resource it had grabbed. To quote Ken Macgregor, head of The University of Cape Town Computer Science Department and an expert is OS design, "Windows 95/98? That's not an OS, that's a pile of shit!" If I sound horribly pro microsoft and win2000, it's simply 2000 is one of the few decent pieces of software released by Microsoft, even if it is HORRIBLY overpriced. Of course you could always use Linux, which has always had all these features anyway, but then you'd have no software support. You just can't win ;). Oh BTW, as far as Win2000 having major problems, the only real problem it had was when they added a new TCP/IP stack and promptly broke TCP/IP with half the hardware out there, AFAIK this was fixed with service pack 1 (released on the same day as 2000 itself interestingly enough ;)) cheers, Sean Cameron ps. sorry about the length of this post, it's hard to discuss OS design and be succinct. Rob Pollard wrote: > I get the feeling that Microsoft changed Win2000 from a general platform > to a business platform at the last minute because they had MAJOR > problems that were unlikely to be resolved within the perceived release > date of the product. > THAT is way they are now waiting for the next generation of O/S, so that > they can have more time. The impression I got was they were having major > problems with device drivers. Obviously this area needs to be as good as > Win98 to allow games to play games on a variety of systems. > -- > Rob 'FlashPan' Pollard > 53rd VFS Warhammers > 20th TFW
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