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9 total messages Started by crazy... Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:00
MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65727
Author: crazy...
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:00
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Howdy,

I manage a cybercafe in Spokane, WA.  I got Total Codex for Christmas
and installed it on one of the machines.  I uninstalled it later...

Uninstalling the game completely removed EVERY entry under the add,
remove programs box under control panel.  So I basically lost the
ability to remove any other programs.  I tried installing something
else and it added itself to the box, but everything else was still gone.

This is specifically how I did it:  There were TWO listings related to
Myth.  One said MYTH II, the other said TOTAL CODEX.  I uninstalled the
MYTH II listing first.  The TOTAL CODEX listing remained and I removed
it next.  When uninstalling the that one it removed (the listings) for
EVERYTHING (all programs) under the dialog box. The programs were still
there, just their listings were gone.  The ability to remove programs
was gone.

At this point I am thinking a couple things:

1. !@#&*!@
2. ok, calm down, it probably is just some psycho fluke with this
particular computer - and I proceed to reinstall windows (please don't
tell me this is an extreme solution, it probably was, but I figured
what the hell, I got time).

THE PLOT THICKENS:

So two weeks later I decide to do my annual re-install of windows on my
home machine which also has a copy of myth II.  I back up all my
important files to my D: partition, etc.  As I got to reformat my C:
drive - I think - hey why not try uninstalling total codex on this
machine, since I am reinstalling windows anyways.  I uninstall in the
way descibed above and guess what...THE SAME THING.  Now, I know it is
not specific to one machine since the one at work and mine at home are
quite different.

Sorry this is so long.  But other people need to know.  This is not an
anti-Bungie post (I love their games, Halo looks like it is gonna
rock), but I am a bit pissed at them about this and thought I should
warn others.  THIS IS NOT THE UNINSTALL BUG THAT CAUSED THE RECALL OF
MYTH II ORIGINALLY.  That one was different.  But this one is pretty
big too.  Somebody daring please test what I am saying on a machine
they don't care about messing up and reply to this post.  If nobody
replies or has the same problem then I guess it is just me.

I have seen no other postings (I did a deja.com search) about this.  I
assume that it probably does not happen if you uninstall TOTAL CODEX
first (I think it is the order I did it in which caused the problem,
tho I could see lots of people doing it that way).

Don't let this discourage you neccassarily from buying Total Codex as
it is an awesome game.  Just follow this thread and see what comes
about.

Thanks.  And yes, I have emailed Bungie about it.

Dirk Tuell
www.crazycarls.com (email me here if you want)



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Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65728
Author: Istvan
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:00
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crazy...@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> I manage a cybercafe in Spokane, WA.  I got Total Codex for Christmas
> and installed it on one of the machines.  I uninstalled it later...
> 
> Uninstalling the game completely removed EVERY entry under the add,
 
thanks for the heads-up! 

Istvan.
Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65729
Author: no... Debaser
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:00
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  You shouldn't have to patch it. Both games in the Total Codex are
v1.3 
  I didn't see any other patch on Bungie's site. Did I miss something?

>The game they give you is the un patched version of the game.  If you
>go to bungie web site you can get a patch to fix the problem.  Also
>you will have to patch the demo before you un install the full game.
>
>Everyone just make sure you have everything patch BEFORE un
>installing.
Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65730
Author: asi... Baron Of Hell
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:00
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:41:47 GMT, crazy...@my-deja.com wrote:

The game they give you is the un patched version of the game.  If you
go to bungie web site you can get a patch to fix the problem.  Also
you will have to patch the demo before you un install the full game.

Everyone just make sure you have everything patch BEFORE un
installing.

>Howdy,
>
>I manage a cybercafe in Spokane, WA.  I got Total Codex for Christmas
>and installed it on one of the machines.  I uninstalled it later...
>
>Uninstalling the game completely removed EVERY entry under the add,
>remove programs box under control panel.  So I basically lost the
>ability to remove any other programs.  I tried installing something
>else and it added itself to the box, but everything else was still gone.
>
>This is specifically how I did it:  There were TWO listings related to
>Myth.  One said MYTH II, the other said TOTAL CODEX.  I uninstalled the
>MYTH II listing first.  The TOTAL CODEX listing remained and I removed
>it next.  When uninstalling the that one it removed (the listings) for
>EVERYTHING (all programs) under the dialog box. The programs were still
>there, just their listings were gone.  The ability to remove programs
>was gone.
>
>At this point I am thinking a couple things:
>
>1. !@#&*!@
>2. ok, calm down, it probably is just some psycho fluke with this
>particular computer - and I proceed to reinstall windows (please don't
>tell me this is an extreme solution, it probably was, but I figured
>what the hell, I got time).
>
>THE PLOT THICKENS:
>
>So two weeks later I decide to do my annual re-install of windows on my
>home machine which also has a copy of myth II.  I back up all my
>important files to my D: partition, etc.  As I got to reformat my C:
>drive - I think - hey why not try uninstalling total codex on this
>machine, since I am reinstalling windows anyways.  I uninstall in the
>way descibed above and guess what...THE SAME THING.  Now, I know it is
>not specific to one machine since the one at work and mine at home are
>quite different.
>
>Sorry this is so long.  But other people need to know.  This is not an
>anti-Bungie post (I love their games, Halo looks like it is gonna
>rock), but I am a bit pissed at them about this and thought I should
>warn others.  THIS IS NOT THE UNINSTALL BUG THAT CAUSED THE RECALL OF
>MYTH II ORIGINALLY.  That one was different.  But this one is pretty
>big too.  Somebody daring please test what I am saying on a machine
>they don't care about messing up and reply to this post.  If nobody
>replies or has the same problem then I guess it is just me.
>
>I have seen no other postings (I did a deja.com search) about this.  I
>assume that it probably does not happen if you uninstall TOTAL CODEX
>first (I think it is the order I did it in which caused the problem,
>tho I could see lots of people doing it that way).
>
>Don't let this discourage you neccassarily from buying Total Codex as
>it is an awesome game.  Just follow this thread and see what comes
>about.
>
>Thanks.  And yes, I have emailed Bungie about it.
>
>Dirk Tuell
>www.crazycarls.com (email me here if you want)
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.


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Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65731
Author: asi... Baron Of Hell
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:00
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On 8 Feb 2000 19:04:15 GMT, no...@none.net (Debaser) wrote:

>  You shouldn't have to patch it. Both games in the Total Codex are
>v1.3 
>  I didn't see any other patch on Bungie's site. Did I miss something?

Sorry about that, I guess the games in the total codex are patched.
However, if you played the demo and you did not patch it, the bug in
the demo will cause a bug in total codex games that will give you
problems when uninstall.  If you did not install the demo, then you
don't have to worry about anything.  

Here is a note I copied from gamespot:

Editor's Note 12/31/98: The Myth II v1.0 demo contained a
                 bug in its uninstaller program. This problem affected
the demo  as well as the full version of the game. As a result, we
removed the original demo from GameSpot. Bungie has now
released that a new version 1.1 of the demo in which the
uninstaller problem has been fixed.


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Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65732
Author: crazy...
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:00
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I DID NOT HAVE THE DEMO INSTALLED AT ANY TIME!  And it still wiped all
my entries under add, remove programs.  After talking with some other
people I don't think I am going to purchase anything from Bungie
anymore - there is absolutely NOTHING on their website about this, even
tho they are probably aware.

Dirk

In article <38a1a30...@news.mindspring.com>,
  asi...@hotHateSPAMmail.com (Baron Of Hell) wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2000 19:04:15 GMT, no...@none.net (Debaser) wrote:
>
> >  You shouldn't have to patch it. Both games in the Total Codex are
> >v1.3
> >  I didn't see any other patch on Bungie's site. Did I miss
something?
>
> Sorry about that, I guess the games in the total codex are patched.
> However, if you played the demo and you did not patch it, the bug in
> the demo will cause a bug in total codex games that will give you
> problems when uninstall.  If you did not install the demo, then you
> don't have to worry about anything.
>
> Here is a note I copied from gamespot:
>
> Editor's Note 12/31/98: The Myth II v1.0 demo contained a
>                  bug in its uninstaller program. This problem affected
> the demo  as well as the full version of the game. As a result, we
> removed the original demo from GameSpot. Bungie has now
> released that a new version 1.1 of the demo in which the
> uninstaller problem has been fixed.
>
> Remove HateSpam to email
> I think I played Doom one to many
> times.
>


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Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65734
Author: Ludwig
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:00
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In article <87si81$t7a$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, crazy...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I DID NOT HAVE THE DEMO INSTALLED AT ANY TIME!  And it still wiped all
> my entries under add, remove programs.  After talking with some other
> people I don't think I am going to purchase anything from Bungie
> anymore - there is absolutely NOTHING on their website about this, even
> tho they are probably aware.

Have you seen any postings here (or anywhere else) that would indicate 
that you are _not_ the only person who's experienced this (with Total 
Codex and no previous demo?)
Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65735
Author: ast... Jon
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:00
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Ludwig (lud...@nypress.net) wrote:
: In article <87si81$t7a$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, crazy...@my-deja.com wrote:

: > I DID NOT HAVE THE DEMO INSTALLED AT ANY TIME!  And it still wiped all
: > my entries under add, remove programs.  After talking with some other
: > people I don't think I am going to purchase anything from Bungie
: > anymore - there is absolutely NOTHING on their website about this, even
: > tho they are probably aware.

: Have you seen any postings here (or anywhere else) that would indicate 
: that you are _not_ the only person who's experienced this (with Total 
: Codex and no previous demo?)

Hmm.. My experience with Bungie has been very good.  I suspect that if
there is no info on their webpage about it, then they may not be aware
that some people are haveing that problem.  I suggest contacting them.

How many other companies have issued recalls on their CD's cause of a
bug?  (Granted, this one was pretty severe in my opinion, but still...)

I haven't really ever had a problem with any of ther games, from Marathon2
(on a Mac) through Myth1 (haven't gotten Myth2 yet, but will probably pick
up the "total codex" as its so stinkin' cheap).

--
Jon

ast...@wam.umd.edu

http://www.wam.umd.edu/~asterix
Re: MYTH TOTAL CODEX: very bad UNINSTALL bug
#65733
Author: jba... Joel Baxter
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:00
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In article <38a14c10...@news.mindspring.com> asi...@hotHateSPAMmail.com (Baron Of Hell) writes:
>On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:41:47 GMT, crazy...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>The game they give you is the un patched version of the game.

No, the Total Codex versions of Myth and Myth 2 are the latest versions of
the game.  The only thing that is not included is the Mac-only patch for
fixing Voodoo problems that was released recently.

BTW, the Total Codex entry in the Add/Remove Programs control panel is
apparently only placed there if you install the third-party maps from the
Total Codex; I used it to install only Myth and Myth 2, and I don't see that
entry in Add/Remove Programs.  Just a little relevant factoid.


-- 
Joel Baxter   jba...@lemur.stanford.edu   http://lemur.stanford.edu/~jbaxter/
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