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3 total messages Started by gt... Carsten TRI Truckenbrodt Fri, 22 May 1992 15:29
RE: German ban on Wolf3D
#1053
Author: gt... Carsten TRI Truckenbrodt
Date: Fri, 22 May 1992 15:29
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hod...@infko.uni-koblenz.de writes:

>This discussion has been going on in FIDO here for the last couple of weeks.
>
>Lets get one thing straight. WOLFENSTEIN IS NOT (YET) BANNED! It isn't on the
>list. One of the FIDO sysops rang the ministry involved and they told him that
>they don't ban stuff just because it has the same name as something already
>on the lists (C64 Wolfenstein) and that somebody has to formally request that
>it be banned. Nobody has yet done this and even when someone does (there're
>enough people who want to spoil other peoples fun - even though they say

Heyheyhey, don't you know what it means that a game is on the INDEX of
the 'BPS-Rolle' (Bundespruefstelle fuer jugendgefaehrdende Schriften)?
Childrens and Kiddies aren't allowed to use/play/own this game, you aren't
allowed to advertise the game and also you aren't allowed to make the game
children under 18 availabe. You can play this game as often as you want and 
noone cares. In my opinion this games indeed isn't the right stuff for
children anyway (also if the can watch the same cruelity in TV...).


>they don't care what others do in private. Hummpf) it will taken months to
>be processed (for once the German bureaucracy has a good side).

I'll be sure, if someone tell the BPS about this game (someone has to do 
this before they do anything!) there were no doubts that it'll go to the
list.
Games like Rocket-Ranger and Indiana Jones (Adv.) would get on the list, if
the original graphics (America release) was still in the games. So they
changed all NAZI-equipment to no-identify-equipment and noone cares again...

>I think the game is great. I've already ordered all 6 parts and have played
>the game (Level 1-10) on "Death Incarnate" twice (and tonight again :-)))).
>-- 

And I think you won't go out an knock down people on the streets... :)

>Wayne Hodgen  | hod...@infko.uni-koblenz.de | Opinions (c) Me 1991   | Intel SX
>Uni Koblenz,  | (..!unido!infko!hodgen)     | Guten Tag to you too   |  Just
>Rheinau 3-4,  | Voice: +49 261 9119-645     | Motherf*cker....       |   say
>5400 Koblenz. | Fax:   +49 261 9119-499     | Pprrrrrrrrrrrrrttttt!! |    NO!!!


-- 
Carsten Truckenbrodt | gt...@eva.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Emil-Figge-9         | scm...@ruth.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
4600 Dortmund 50     | knig...@hilbert.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
0231/756494          | "Shit happens..." (The Leningrad Cowboys)
Re: German ban on Wolf3D, Indiana Jones
#1054
Author: pyc... Peter Y. Chen
Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 05:23
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In article <vj40m...@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE> gt...@eva.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Carsten "TRI" Truckenbrodt) writes:
>
>hod...@infko.uni-koblenz.de writes:
>
>list.
>Games like Rocket-Ranger and Indiana Jones (Adv.) would get on the list, if
>the original graphics (America release) was still in the games. So they
>changed all NAZI-equipment to no-identify-equipment and noone cares again...
>

Again, just curious: was the Indiana Jones series (and for that matter, the
Rocketeers -- Blah!) shown as-is in Germany?  I think there were a few
Germans who were portrayed in these movies in a not-so-flattering light,
but how could these films be edited to remove those elements without 
destroying the integrity (and the plot) of the movie?  I hope some of our
German netters can fill me in on this.

-- Peter
Re: German ban on Wolf3D, Indiana Jones
#1055
Author: gt... Carsten TRI Truckenbrodt
Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 11:59
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In article <1992May23.0...@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> pyc...@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Peter Y. Chen) writes:
>
>Again, just curious: was the Indiana Jones series (and for that matter, the
>Rocketeers -- Blah!) shown as-is in Germany?  I think there were a few
>Germans who were portrayed in these movies in a not-so-flattering light,
>but how could these films be edited to remove those elements without 
>destroying the integrity (and the plot) of the movie?  I hope some of our
>German netters can fill me in on this.
>
>-- Peter

No, the movies weren't changed. Only the games. I think this was made 
because the BPS has 'censored' some games that are really really really
very very very brutal like: River Raid, Silent Service (not anymore) and a
lot others. There were some really brainless games like the NAZI-TEST, 
ANTI-TURK-TEST and so where pictures of Hitler and 'Hakenkreuze' appear.
That's a complex problem and this is not the right place to discuss this,
the only interesting thing is, that when in a game a 'Hakenkreuz'
or insigniens of the 3.Reich are shown a lot of people who do not know
what the plot of the game is cry that this is dangerous for the poor little
children, and so the softwarecompany decides to change the graphics of their
game to get no problems. That's it...

TRI

-- 
Carsten Truckenbrodt | gt...@eva.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Emil-Figge-9         | scm...@ruth.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
4600 Dortmund 50     | knig...@hilbert.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
0231/756494          | "Shit happens..." (The Leningrad Cowboys)
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