🚀 go-pugleaf

cco...@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>What?  Am I the first?  Well, well....
Yep, it sure looks like your the first, I don't think too many people
noticed it yet though ;)


>Um, so what do you guys think about the U7 bugs?
>;-)
Origin Games with bugs?  really?


>-- 
>Jorge Diaz                       | "Go to her door... beg like a human."
>Georgia Institute of Technology  | 
>Office of Information Technology |                     - Worf
>cco...@prism.gatech.edu         | 

I think we need to wake up the people still posting to r.g.m
                                                   Dave
--
Dave Bristel
Who needs school when I already have a job?

OK, now everybody make sure to crosspost to r.g.m.  :-)

In article <db0885.7...@adx.adelphi.edu> db0...@adx.adelphi.edu (David J. Bristel) writes:
>cco...@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>>Um, so what do you guys think about the U7 bugs?
>>;-)
>Origin Games with bugs?  really?
>
>
I'm still so annoyed about the bugs in U6, etc.

By the way, I mean, I have a lowly 386sx/16, but Ultima 7 is so damn slow!

I mean, sure, it's PD, but castle wolf. 3d has decent scrolling etc., and it's
fast!  Now, if we wanna talk REALLY slow, lets talk Ultima Underworld!!

Yikes man!  On a 386-25 it was slow...zoing!  Jinkies...

Mad Poo Bandit

In article <57...@hydra.gatech.EDU> cco...@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>What?  Am I the first?  Well, well....
>
>
>Um, so what do you guys think about the U7 bugs?

What Ultima 7 bugs?

-- 
Guy W. Kendall - Applications Engineer            Guy.K...@ColoSpgs.NCR.COM
NCR Microelectronic Products Division               Voice: 719-596-5795 x465
1635 Aeroplaza Drive                                  Fax: 719-570-6045
Colorado Springs, CO 80916                            BBS: 719-596-1649 

In article <17...@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM> gken...@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall) writes:
>In article <57...@hydra.gatech.EDU> cco...@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>>What?  Am I the first?  Well, well....
>>
>>Um, so what do you guys think about the U7 bugs?
>
>What Ultima 7 bugs?

  Speaking of Ultima 7 bugs, I had the game crash rather interestingly on
me last night.... I got a Parity Error. Now, for those of you who don't
know, a parity error is generated by the hardware... For every 9 memory chips,
there's a ninth chip, that data is copied in to, allowing the pc to compare
two chip's contents, to make sure they aren't changing unreliably. If they are,
then it generates a parity error. 

  Now, theres nothing wrong with my hardware. My memory is a-ok, and this
error has never happened before, and hasn't happened since. Which really
makes me wonder about Ultima 7.... How the hell does a piece of software
alone cause such a low level hardware error? Go figure.

  As far as the disappearing key's bug, its hard for me to understand how
such an obvious and reproducable bug that EVERYONE who plays the game runs
in to could have possibly made it past beta testing. Its almost as if Origin
did it on purpose... Or perhaps someone sabatoged the project. Wierd.

  Anyway, now that I'm done griping, does anyone know how to find the sphere
generator for the time lord? I've gone through everything I could
find. Theres still some chests and one door (with a body past it) that
I can't open. I've found some secret passages, and even gone up above the
mountains a couple of times, but still no sphere. Anyone have any clue
what I'm missing?
-- 
William Dennis Herrin
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt5254a
Internet: gt5...@prism.gatech.edu

In article <57...@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5...@prism.gatech.EDU (William Dennis Herrin) writes:
>In article <17...@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM> gken...@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall) writes:
>>In article <57...@hydra.gatech.EDU> cco...@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>>>
>>>Um, so what do you guys think about the U7 bugs?
>>
>>What Ultima 7 bugs?
>
>  Speaking of Ultima 7 bugs, I had the game crash rather interestingly on
>me last night.... I got a Parity Error. Now, for those of you who don't
>know, a parity error is generated by the hardware... For every 9 memory chips,
>there's a ninth chip, that data is copied in to, allowing the pc to compare
>two chip's contents, to make sure they aren't changing unreliably. If they are,
>then it generates a parity error. 
>
>  Now, theres nothing wrong with my hardware. My memory is a-ok, and this
>error has never happened before, and hasn't happened since. Which really
>makes me wonder about Ultima 7.... How the hell does a piece of software
>alone cause such a low level hardware error? Go figure.
>
>  As far as the disappearing key's bug, its hard for me to understand how
>in to could have possibly made it past beta testing. Its almost as if Origin
>did it on purpose... Or perhaps someone sabatoged the project. Wierd.
>
>  Anyway, now that I'm done griping, does anyone know how to find the sphere
>generator for the time lord? I've gone through everything I could
>find. Theres still some chests and one door (with a body past it) that
>I can't open. I've found some secret passages, and even gone up above the
>mountains a couple of times, but still no sphere. Anyone have any clue
>what I'm missing?

I admit I am no computer hardware genius, but I have had that "memory parity
error" quite frequently b/f I attained a faster computer.  For instance,
when playing MM3 on my old AT 8 mhz machine I received tons of parity errors.
However, once I attained a 386 motherboard, I no longer received any "parity
errors."  Anyway, this is only a speculation to your problem.  I am sure you
already know but U7 needs to run at least a 386.  If your system is slower 
than 16 mhz, then you are pretty much screwed.

P.P.

P.S.  Let me know if I am wrong.

In <57...@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt5...@prism.gatech.EDU
	(William Dennis Herrin) wrote:

>   Speaking of Ultima 7 bugs, I had the game crash rather interestingly on
> me last night.... I got a Parity Error.  [...]

>   Now, theres nothing wrong with my hardware. My memory is a-ok, and this
> error has never happened before, and hasn't happened since. Which really
> makes me wonder about Ultima 7.... How the hell does a piece of software
> alone cause such a low level hardware error? Go figure.

Well, Occam's Razor says you probably really did have a parity error.
I don't see the need to reach for a harder theory.

There's nothing that says that parity errors come in groups, unless
it's a hard failure.  DRAM suffers soft errors too (that's the reason
for ECC RAM systems).

Many, if not most, BIOSs actually check the port 0x61 bits after
receiving an NMI, and don't say there was a parity error unless there
really was one.
-- 
James R. Van Artsdalen          ja...@bigtex.cactus.org   "Live Free or Die"
Dell Computer Co    9505 Arboretum Blvd Austin TX 78759         512-338-8789

Getting to the generator isn't an easy task... You gotta go into the Dungeon
Despise and get past all the teleport traps.  Once you get past those and into
the proper area, finding it is easy. (now getting to it I haven't figured out
yet).