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>In other news, SimCity 5 is taking a beating in the press for it's DRM,
>*ahem*, I mean it's online component requirements.
>
>http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/clogged-streets-simcity-launch-plagued-by-server-problems/
>
>Anyone who buys/bought this game should report to us immediately and let
>us all know if this is the status quo, or just a launch hiccup.
>
>(Why OT? Well,it's not really an action game, but csipg.strat is pretty
>dead, and I've never really felt this sort of game exactly fit strat
>either. How is it that there is no "simulation" subgroup?)

Too wide a potential category probably.
Flight sims, space sims, driving sims, crime sims, economic sims, etc,
etc, etc.

Xocyll
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:24:24 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In other news, SimCity 5 is taking a beating in the press for it's DRM,
>*ahem*, I mean it's online component requirements.
>
>http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/clogged-streets-simcity-launch-plagued-by-server-problems/
>
>Anyone who buys/bought this game should report to us immediately and let
>us all know if this is the status quo, or just a launch hiccup.
>
>(Why OT? Well,it's not really an action game, but csipg.strat is pretty
>dead, and I've never really felt this sort of game exactly fit strat
>either. How is it that there is no "simulation" subgroup?)

If it were any other company, I'd say it was a launch hiccup.
EA has proven to be a pooch screwer extraordinaire though. Not sure
I've ever seen a mulit-billion dollar company consistently bungle
stuff to their level.

Unfortunately, their continued success shows how gullible gamers are
as a group.

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:24:24 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In other news, SimCity 5 is taking a beating in the press for it's DRM,
>*ahem*, I mean it's online component requirements.

<<insert my complaints about always online DRM for single player games
here>>

>(Why OT? Well,it's not really an action game, but csipg.strat is pretty
>dead, and I've never really felt this sort of game exactly fit strat
>either. How is it that there is no "simulation" subgroup?)

Honestly, when I think 'sim' I think controlling a vehicle. Flight
sims, tank sims, etc. When I think SimCity, I think strategy game. Ok,
that probably isn't correct but there you have it.

Personally, at this point, I would be ok with merging all PC gaming
groups into just one.

In article <s09fj81ebc5mjhf46bfivpms4c5hjb7a4q@4ax.com>, 
Mike_S@nowhere.com says...
> 
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:24:24 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >In other news, SimCity 5 is taking a beating in the press for it's DRM,
> >*ahem*, I mean it's online component requirements.
> 
> <<insert my complaints about always online DRM for single player games
> here>>
> 
> >(Why OT? Well,it's not really an action game, but csipg.strat is pretty
> >dead, and I've never really felt this sort of game exactly fit strat
> >either. How is it that there is no "simulation" subgroup?)
> 
> Honestly, when I think 'sim' I think controlling a vehicle. Flight
> sims, tank sims, etc. When I think SimCity, I think strategy game. Ok,
> that probably isn't correct but there you have it.
> 
> Personally, at this point, I would be ok with merging all PC gaming
> groups into just one.

I haven't gone near SimCity for over a decade (since SimCity 2000) so I 
have no idea what the latest iterations have added or changed, but I've 
always thought of it as an economic and political simulator - in other 
words not THAT different in many aspects from what we do in the better 
4x games, really, only more topical and limited in scope but more in-
depth for that. 

When I see the botch up job many of our local politicians make of 
community management I sometimes think they might have done well getting 
a bit of advance training on their computer .....

{sarcastic smile}   -P.

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:24:24 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In other news, SimCity 5 is taking a beating in the press for it's DRM,
>*ahem*, I mean it's online component requirements.
>
>http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/clogged-streets-simcity-launch-plagued-by-server-problems/
>
>Anyone who buys/bought this game should report to us immediately and let
>us all know if this is the status quo, or just a launch hiccup.
>
>(Why OT? Well,it's not really an action game, but csipg.strat is pretty
>dead, and I've never really felt this sort of game exactly fit strat
>either. How is it that there is no "simulation" subgroup?)

I was listening to Opie and Anthony this morning and Anthony was
bitching about paying $80 for the digital deluxe version of this a
couple days ago and still not being able to play or even have it show
up in his Origin purchases after getting billed for it.

Not exactly a traditional radio show, but still funny to hear a
specific complaint like that on the air.

Amazon UK briefly suspends sales of SimCity video game
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21712910 

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In article <khe869$fsf$1@speranza.aioe.org>, no-spam@never.spam says...
> 
> Amazon UK briefly suspends sales of SimCity video game
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21712910 
> 
> @@Mouse@@


In a youtube let's play video of the beta I heard the poster rabbit on 
about how stupid people are who would miss out on a wonderful game 
experience because of the forever online requirement. "Forever online 
requirement is here to stay" he blathered.

Personally I thought how stupid to miss out on a sale because I for one 
won't buy a game that I can't play on my laptop while I'm sitting in a 
motel some place, or in an aeroplane ... (many wireless connections 
won't support the SimCity5 speed requirements!)

Well it seems the people who posted on my game retailer's website are up 
in arms. Installation taking hours, and connection to the game servers 
not happening - not just for 30 minutes as quoted in the BBC article, 
but for 3 hours plus before they gave up in disgust. 

As I see it, that makes for 2.5 options here:
1) don't buy it
2) don't buy it
2.5 - make sure you can get a hacked copy so you don't have to be online 
to play, in which case, actually, why buy it in the first place?

Right? 

As I told the firaxis support guy: if I buy a game on media in a box, I 
expect not to have to run Steam all the time in order to run my game 
(Civ V). So they lost my custom for the future. Plenty of people are 
taking a stand and publishing games and ebooks without "DRM". I've 
bought into two Kickstarter projects lately for just that reason.

At least with the steam thing you can run steam in offline mode when 
you're not connected, so you can still use your software.

-P.

Peter Huebner  <no.one@this.address> wrote:
>Well it seems the people who posted on my game retailer's website are up 
>in arms. Installation taking hours, and connection to the game servers 
>not happening - not just for 30 minutes as quoted in the BBC article, 
>but for 3 hours plus before they gave up in disgust. 

Kotaku had a good article about all the different ways SimCity's online
problems can prevent someone from playing the game:

http://kotaku.com/5989503/the-many-ways-we-didnt-get-to-play-simcity-this-week

Fortunately if I want to play SimCity can I still have my copy of SimCity
2000 I can play any time I want.  I wonder if this new SimCity's servers
will still be running 15 years from now.  Or even two.

					Ross Ridge

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