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David Lamb  <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> wrote:
>The trouble is the usual one I have with games: they list one graphics 
>card, I have another, and I have no idea how to find out whether mine is 
>adequate.  They say NVIDIAŽ GeForce 8800 or ATI RadeonŽ X1900; I have 
>Radeon 3600. My system is old and although I expect to upgrade it 
>eventually I need to put that off for a little while.
>
>So is my card good enough? And, more generally, is there some website 
>that tells you "if they say this, and you have that, you can/can't run 
>the game."

I use the chart at the end of Tom's Hardware's monthly Best Graphics
Cards for the Money article to rank cards by performance:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

According the chart your graphics card would be somewhat slower than an
Radeon X1900.  That *might* not be too much of a problem in a Paradox
strategy game.

						Ross Ridge

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David Lamb wrote:
> Today GameStop has Sengoku available for half price ($15 CAD), via
> Impulse, no DRM. It looks interestingly different from what I already
> have in the way of strategy games. I'd appreciate some comments from
> people who've tried it to see if they like it.

Interesting. Never heard of it. "All the strategic elements of Shogun 2 
campaign map" but ramped up to 11. Seems like a good purchase for $15 
but I also see it is compared to Europa Universalis.

My 2¢ -- I bought Paradox's Europa Universalis - Rome on an impulse buy 
and installed it and looked at the screen and tried to figure out what 
to do. So many options and buttons and charts and graphs. I viewed the 
tutorials and still had no idea what to do -- they were not very 
informative. Others told me that you kinda need to know how to play the 
EU game in order to learn how to play the EU - Rome game. This one may 
be like that.


> The trouble is the usual one I have with games: they list one graphics
> card, I have another, and I have no idea how to find out whether mine is
> adequate. They say NVIDIA® GeForce 8800 or ATI Radeon® X1900; I have
> Radeon 3600. My system is old and although I expect to upgrade it
> eventually I need to put that off for a little while.
>
> So is my card good enough? And, more generally, is there some website
> that tells you "if they say this, and you have that, you can/can't run
> the game."

Sorry. Not familiar enough with the ATI cards to answer this part.

Assuming you get it and it runs ... review please.  :)


   - Sheldon

In article <jhea33$ad8$1@dont-email.me>, sheldonengland@netscape.net 
says...
> 
> My 2¢ -- I bought Paradox's Europa Universalis - Rome on an impulse buy 
> and installed it and looked at the screen and tried to figure out what 
> to do. So many options and buttons and charts and graphs. I viewed the 
> tutorials and still had no idea what to do -- they were not very 
> informative. Others told me that you kinda need to know how to play the 
> EU game in order to learn how to play the EU - Rome game. This one may 
> be like that.
> 

Oh, I remember that one, I bought Europa Universalis a long time ago.
Somehow it reminded me of Risk, the boardgame, and like Risk I didn't 
like it all that much. You get 3-5 good dice rolls and it starts an 
avalanche victory. More technical in EU, but in the end it's not that 
different. Thought I'd support a small indie, but the product didn't 
really work for me, I consider it money down the toilet. I tried a dozen 
times to get into that game (that means a dozen sustained efforts at 
different times, not booting it up 12 times) but, well, blah ...

Sengoku may be totally different.

f.w.i.w.
-P.

On 14/02/2012 9:22 PM, Peter Huebner wrote:
> In article<jhea33$ad8$1@dont-email.me>, sheldonengland@netscape.net
> says...
>>
>> My 2¢ -- I bought Paradox's Europa Universalis - Rome on an impulse buy
>> and installed it and looked at the screen and tried to figure out what
>> to do. So many options and buttons and charts and graphs. I viewed the
>> tutorials and still had no idea what to do -- they were not very
>> informative.
>
> Oh, I remember that one, I bought Europa Universalis a long time ago.
> Somehow it reminded me of Risk, the boardgame, and like Risk I didn't
> like it all that much. You get 3-5 good dice rolls and it starts an
> avalanche victory. More technical in EU, but in the end it's not that
> different.

I bought the game and read most of the 88 page manual (all but 
"multiplayer").  At first glance it does look very, very complex. I'm 
starting on "very easy" with an independent clan leader and hope I get 
things somewhat figured out before the first neighbour decides to start 
trouble.  I'll report back again when I've learned more -- but it looks 
like a game will take a long, long time.

Peter Huebner  <no.one@this.address> wrote:
>Oh, I remember that one, I bought Europa Universalis a long time ago.
>Somehow it reminded me of Risk, the boardgame, and like Risk I didn't 
>like it all that much. You get 3-5 good dice rolls and it starts an 
>avalanche victory. More technical in EU, but in the end it's not that 
>different

Europa Universalis is nothing like that.  Luck isn't that big a factor
in ground combat, and doing too well at the start can be very counter
productive as the AI will see you as the biggest threat and gang up
on you.  A number of factors limit how fast you can grow, you can't just
steamroll over everyone. It's really a game about managing the ebb and
flow of war, minimizing your losses when the enemy has the advantage,
while not over extending yourself when you do.  Being able to deal
efficiently with the constant threat of revolt any is a crucial skill.
You also can easily lose more men to attrition than directly in battle.

EU is superficially like Risk in that has a global scale, area movement,
and stacks of simple units.  It plays nothing like it.

>Sengoku may be totally different.

I'm guessing it's pretty much like any Paradox strategy game.

					Ross Ridge

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David Lamb  <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> wrote:
>I bought the game and read most of the 88 page manual (all but 
>"multiplayer").  At first glance it does look very, very complex. I'm 
>starting on "very easy" with an independent clan leader and hope I get 
>things somewhat figured out before the first neighbour decides to start 
>trouble.  I'll report back again when I've learned more -- but it looks 
>like a game will take a long, long time.

By the way, how well is it performing on your machine?  Still playable
despite using a somewhat under spec PC?

					Ross Ridge

-- 
 l/  //	  Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
[oo][oo]  rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
-()-/()/  http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rridge/ 
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On 18/02/2012 11:15 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
> By the way, how well is it performing on your machine?  Still playable
> despite using a somewhat under spec PC?

All I've done so far, after realizing how long a game was going to take, 
was to get started on building up infrastructure using one of the 
independent Daimyo -- so I didn't have to worry (yet) about war or 
appeasing a master.  There's little graphics involved at that point.  I 
imagine the battles might require more!