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On 18 Jan 2001 07:53:59 GMT, htn...@cs.com (Htn963) wrote:

>     For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead settler
>hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you turn
>a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which you can
>churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can recall
>from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from Final
>Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can anyone
>name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

Probably the most famous hoax was the cow level in the first Diablo.
Then Blizzard put in a real level in the sequel. Heh. 

- 
Mark Asher - http://www.quartertothree.com/
"Doubletime" interview with CliffyB and Levelord

I don't know if it qualifies as a hox, but there used to be rumors
that you could get to the volcano in  the arcade Battle Zone.

I knew a lot of people who were convinced that if you got really high
scores on arcade video games, the machine would take you picture and
give it to the air force so they could try to recruit you to fly
fighter planes.

The most famous hoax I know - The Tomb Raider nude code.  People
believed in this for PC and Playstation.  Finally hackers had to make
Nude Raider, but I think PSX owners are out of luck with that!

On 18 Jan 2001 07:53:59 GMT, htn...@cs.com (Htn963) wrote:

>     For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead settler
>hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you turn
>a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which you can
>churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can recall
>from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from Final
>Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can anyone
>name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

PBC

m.m.m.m.m.m.m....What was my e-mail address?

htn...@cs.com (Htn963) writes:

>     For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead settler
>hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you turn
>a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which you can
>churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can recall
>from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from Final
>Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can anyone
>name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

Thief fans often referred to a (mythical) "bow upgrade".

Alexx Kay
Opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of my employers
al...@world.std.com
http://world.std.com/~alexx
"Your son at five is your master, at ten your slave, at fifteen your
 double, and after that, your friend or your foe, depending on his
 bringing up."               -- Hasdai Ibn Shaprut

Playing Abbey Road backwards was supposed to bring back Paul from the dead??

or was that Sgt Pepper's????


"Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> wrote in message
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>      For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead
settler
> hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you
turn
> a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which
you can
> churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can
recall
> from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from
Final
> Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can
anyone
> name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.


johng

In article <20010118025359...@ng-cd1.news.cs.com>, Htn963
<htn...@cs.com> wrote:

> Can anyone name any other, just for my own curiosity?  

I don't know if it's notable, but someone was posting the details of
some made-up encounters on the King of Dragon Pass forum
<http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/48065>. The hoax seemed to take people
in, probably because people have reported playing the game for a year
and still discovering new events.

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http://www.a-sharp.com/
    "I say we should listen to the customers and give them what they want."
    "What they want is better products for free." --Scott Adams

Guess whichever one it is works then John as Paul seems to be around and
having fun! Oh wait -  he hasn't been resurrected - it's just he hasn't died
yet!

Ian

John Gwynn <john....@tfn.com> wrote in message
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> Playing Abbey Road backwards was supposed to bring back Paul from the
dead??
>
> or was that Sgt Pepper's????
>
>
> "Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:20010118025359.08322.00002460@ng-cd1.news.cs.com...
> >      For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead
> settler
> > hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if
you
> turn
> > a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which
> you can
> > churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can
> recall
> > from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from
> Final
> > Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can
> anyone
> > name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.
>
>
> johng
>
>
>

>Can anyone
>name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.
>

The cow level in Diablo 1.  That had to have been the most long-lived level
hoax I've ever seen.  Of course, they actually put it in D2... :)

"Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20010118025359.08322.00002460@ng-cd1.news.cs.com...
>      For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead settler
> hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you turn
> a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which you can
> churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can recall
> from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from Final
> Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can anyone
> name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

The secret cow level in Diablo 1.

It was actually added in Diablo 2. Plus there was a
stupid quest in the expansion pack to get a cow suit.

Htn963 wrote in message <20010118025359.08322.00002460@ng-
<snip>
>  Can anyone
>name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

Hmm, I think in Simcity 2000, the 'Launch Arcologies' would qualify as
a hoax. They look like they take off in to space, but don't.

Outpost might qualify. There was supposed to be a game in it, but
there really wasn't.

Also, a couple things in the orignal Elite were mentioned in the
manual, like generation ships, but weren't in the game. A lot of
people looked for those.

At the end of the original Sgt. Pepper album, in the little groove that runs
to the spindle, was a little nonsense noise. If you played it back it said
something, I don't remember what. At the end of "I'm so Tired" was a little
bit of backwards John mumbling, that if you played backwards said "Paul's
dead and I miss 'im". I don't think there were any such clues on the Abbey
Road album, other than the cover picture which depicted Paul walking across
the street barefoot, supposedly some kind of sign of the dead.

- Bob Perez

"John Gwynn" <john....@tfn.com> wrote in message
news:GyI96.2543$tD2.182074@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Playing Abbey Road backwards was supposed to bring back Paul from the
dead??
>
> or was that Sgt Pepper's????
>
>
> "Htn963" <htn...@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:20010118025359.08322.00002460@ng-cd1.news.cs.com...
> >      For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead
> settler
> > hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if
you
> turn
> > a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which
> you can
> > churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can
> recall
> > from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from
> Final
> > Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can
> anyone
> > name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.
>
>
> johng
>
>
>

There was the Tomb Raider nude cheat I remember.

You had to turn Lara round 3 time counter clock wise, go to inventory,
select shotgun,. turn counter clockwise 8 time etc . etc. etc...

I must have spent 20 hours trying to get that to work . oops I mean a friend
of mine spent 20 hours ... ummm


Troy



Alexx S Kay <al...@world.std.com> wrote in message
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> htn...@cs.com (Htn963) writes:
>
> >     For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead
settler
> >hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you
turn
> >a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which
you can
> >churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can
recall
> >from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from
Final
> >Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can
anyone
> >name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.
>
> Thief fans often referred to a (mythical) "bow upgrade".
>
> Alexx Kay
> Opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of my employers
> al...@world.std.com
> http://world.std.com/~alexx
> "Your son at five is your master, at ten your slave, at fifteen your
>  double, and after that, your friend or your foe, depending on his
>  bringing up."               -- Hasdai Ibn Shaprut
>

In article <948shh$4bv$1...@brokaw.wa.com>,
Bob Perez <b...@deletethis.planetperez.com> wrote:
>At the end of the original Sgt. Pepper album, in the little groove that runs
>to the spindle, was a little nonsense noise. If you played it back it said
>something, I don't remember what. At the end of "I'm so Tired" was a little
>bit of backwards John mumbling, that if you played backwards said "Paul's
>dead and I miss 'im". I don't think there were any such clues on the Abbey
>Road album, other than the cover picture which depicted Paul walking across
>the street barefoot, supposedly some kind of sign of the dead.

The deal was that you never see the feet of the guy in the coffin, so why
put shoes on him?  John, all in white is the priest, Ringo in a dark suit is
the undertaker, Paul without shoes is the corpse, and George, in denim, is
the gravedigger.  There's something about the license plate on the Beetle
too, and the fact that they're walking from the graveyard, and all sorts of
other stuff.

Dean

Htn963 wrote:

>      For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead settler
> hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you turn
> a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which you can
> churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can recall
> from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from Final
> Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can anyone
> name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

    Well, this is from the ancient history of coin-op arcade games (and hence
OT), but there once was a rumor that, in the original Battlezone game, that
if you kept driving your tank in the same direction long enough (avoiding
enemy tanks and buzz bombs all the while), that you would eventually
REACH said hills, and find yourself on the outskirts of the enemy tank
factory...
    A friend of mine in college used to play this for hours (trading off every
100 points until we ran up some wild scores), and we never found that
mythical tank factory...

    John DiFool

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:19:29 -0500, p_conrad
<pm_mcmo...@cheatsearch.com> wrote:

>I knew a lot of people who were convinced that if you got really high
>scores on arcade video games, the machine would take you picture and
>give it to the air force so they could try to recruit you to fly
>fighter planes.

This was no doubt inspired by the movie "The Last Starfighter," where
an alien agent (played by Robert Preston, of all people) used an
arcade game to identify people who would make good starfighter pilots.

Dav Vandenbroucke
dav_and_france...@compuserve.com

There was also the Cloaking Device in Star Control II, some people are 
still looking for it. :)

Dean ODonnell wrote:
> 
> In article <948shh$4bv$1...@brokaw.wa.com>,
> Bob Perez <b...@deletethis.planetperez.com> wrote:
> >At the end of the original Sgt. Pepper album, in the little groove that runs
> >to the spindle, was a little nonsense noise. If you played it back it said
> >something, I don't remember what. At the end of "I'm so Tired" was a little
> >bit of backwards John mumbling, that if you played backwards said "Paul's
> >dead and I miss 'im". I don't think there were any such clues on the Abbey
> >Road album, other than the cover picture which depicted Paul walking across
> >the street barefoot, supposedly some kind of sign of the dead.
> 
> The deal was that you never see the feet of the guy in the coffin, so why
> put shoes on him?  John, all in white is the priest, Ringo in a dark suit is
> the undertaker, Paul without shoes is the corpse, and George, in denim, is
> the gravedigger.  There's something about the license plate on the Beetle
> too, and the fact that they're walking from the graveyard, and all sorts of
> other stuff.
> 
> Dean

I think if you held a mirror up to the license plate in a certain way,
the reflection combined with part of the original image would form a
word that meant something like "death".   

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http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Obituary/paul.html

Quick search found many  Paul is dead websites (don't you just lover
the internet.) This isn't necessarily best, but it does load quickly.

I had remembered that the licenplate read 28IF, refering to the age
Paul would be IF he had lived. That is the supposed clue - but
apparently, Paul only would have been 27.



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In article <94icbk$dj0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <salmo...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Obituary/paul.html
>
>Quick search found many  Paul is dead websites (don't you just lover
>the internet.) This isn't necessarily best, but it does load quickly.
>
>I had remembered that the licenplate read 28IF, refering to the age
>Paul would be IF he had lived. That is the supposed clue - but
>apparently, Paul only would have been 27.

Well...  eventually he would have been 28.

Never let a fact interfere with a good conspiracy.

And somewhere in the mix there's supposed to be George saying, "I buried
Paul."  But Harrison has always claimed he said, "Cranberry sauce."  (Why he
would say cranberry sauce is as much a myster as the whole Paul is dead
thing.)

Teehee.

Dean

Dean ODonnell wrote:
> 
> In article <94icbk$dj0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <salmo...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Obituary/paul.html
> >
> >Quick search found many  Paul is dead websites (don't you just lover
> >the internet.) This isn't necessarily best, but it does load quickly.
> >
> >I had remembered that the licenplate read 28IF, refering to the age
> >Paul would be IF he had lived. That is the supposed clue - but
> >apparently, Paul only would have been 27.
> 
> Well...  eventually he would have been 28.
> 
> Never let a fact interfere with a good conspiracy.
> 
> And somewhere in the mix there's supposed to be George saying, "I buried
> Paul."  But Harrison has always claimed he said, "Cranberry sauce."  (Why he
> would say cranberry sauce is as much a myster as the whole Paul is dead
> thing.)
> 
> Teehee.
> 
> Dean

There's one song, I think it was maybe "Strawberry Fields Forever" (it
was something in that era), where "Cranberry sauce" is definitely spoken
at the end. But I always thought it was John saying it because it
certainly doesn't sound like George. In fact, in the notes to one of the
Anthology CDs it states that it is John.
-- 

Cheers!
Jeff George

In article <20010118025359...@ng-cd1.news.cs.com>, Htn963 
<htn...@cs.com> says...

<snip>

> Can anyone name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

There's the Mirage in Frontier: Elite 2. To get the ship, you'd need the 
following (from memory):

1. Elite Combat rating.

2. Rank of Prince (highest rank in the Imperial Navy).

3. User ident from the Sirius Corporation, which you get from the 
Managing Director.

You're supposed to fly to the edge of the galaxy, where you'll be 
approached by the flagship of the Empire. You'll get a message, and then 
you get the Mirage.

Nobody is sure how the rumour started, but there's speculation that it 
originated as a submission to the cheats section in an Amiga magazine (in 
the old days, some mags used to give prizes for published tips/cheats). 
The rumour reached the zenith of its credibility when it was included in 
Tony Dillon's mostly excellent book 'Secrets of Frontier Elite.'

There are, of course, a large number of things which show the rumour to 
be bogus.

* There is no reference anywhere in the game code to a user ident from 
the Sirius Corporation or even a means of getting one. However, it is 
possible for the phrase "Director such-and-such of Sirius Corp" to appear 
in the game, but this is as part of a randomly generated assassination 
mission.

* There is only one 'unidentified' model in the game - a Thargoid ship 
which can sometimes be seen derelict on the ground near research bases on 
photography / bombing missions.

* Which edge of the galaxy, which solar system? Not to mention the fact 
that you'd almost certainly either run out of fuel or your drive fail due 
to lack of servicing long before you got there.

* Getting the required ratings would take a *very* long time - thus 
making checking the accuracy of the rumour very difficult.

* Braben has gone on record denying that the Mirage exists (although he 
put a reference to a Mirage II in one of the journal articles in First 
Encounters as a joke).

If you do a Deja search in alt.fan.elite for Mirage you should get a load 
of stuff from the semi-regular debates on this topic.

-- 
Graham 'Jades' Thurlwell

Jades' FFE Site: http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm
The best Frontier First Encounters site on the net

On Thursday, 18 January 2001 07:58:06 UTC, Htn963  wrote:
> For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead settler
> hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you turn
> a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which you can
> churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can recall
> from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from Final
> Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can anyone
> name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.

There's the famous Sheng Long hoax and there's also the infamous Polybius legend (the game, not the historian).

>wrote in message 
>news:13130d16-9892-4cdb-9f34-0c2b8c268594@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Thursday, 18 January 2001 07:58:06 UTC, Htn963  wrote:
>> For some reason, while washing the dishes, I thought of the undead 
>> settler
>> hoax in Master of Magic and was chuckling.  (The hoax claimed that if you 
>> turn
>> a settler unit into undead, it can then build an undead city from which 
>> you can
>> churn out all other undead units.)  The only other notable hoax I can 
>> recall
>> from my gaming experience is the claim that one can resurrect Aeris from 
>> Final
>> Fantasy 7  by going through extremely detailed set of fool steps.  Can 
>> anyone
>> name any other, just for my own curiosity?  Thanks.
>
>There's the famous Sheng Long hoax and there's also the infamous Polybius 
>legend (the game, not the historian).

There was one with The 7th Guest about using the puzzle hint/help to often. 
I think it was you would miss some cut scenes, not sure but it was something 
the player would not want to happen.

Were these hoaxes put out by players or the game designers?  7th was by the 
designers.  I've played MoM but never heard of that one.  Never played the 
other games.