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Article #716498Re: some thoughts regarding Civ5
From: Kevin Blackburn
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:54
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:54
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In message <MPG.29b073c341ccd30b98969a@news.individual.net>, Peter Huebner <no.one@this.address> writes > > >I bought Civ 5 a couple of days ago. > >First impressions were annoyance: I bought the boxed disk version. Ho, >hum: as it turned out the disk version not only wants you to install >Steam to activate the program, it will always spawn Steam in order to >play, if you want it or not. Ok, so I can run Steam in offline mode, >it's still a nuissance. I was NOT expecting that. I resent having to >poke holes in my firewall so Steam can do ... nothing useful at all, in >order for me to play a game. > >I have upgraced my OS since I had my old Steam install, and recovering >my account details simply didn't work. In the end I had to make a new >account ... fortunately my only other Steam game, X3, does not require >Steam to run at all, so this is not a major piss-off. A bloody lot of >frustration all the same. Particularly since Steam immediately tried to >upgrade the game client and timed out. Second try after restarting Steam >worked fortunately, so after about 2 hours of mucking about and deciding >that Firaxis will not sell me another game on this basis I finally got >to take a look at the game. (Oh, and in the first session Steam started >spamming me with unwanted pop-ups and requesters -- fortunately it >doesn't seem to do that any more since I put it into offline mode -- but >spam sure is a great way of getting on the wrong side of my temper). >I will be *extremely* circumspect about/before buying another Firaxis/2k >game. >Likely: not. Any company that does not understand that user experience >plays a role in buying decisions deserves to lose customers. > >To the game: >Radically changed interface and mechanics nonwithstanding, I felt more >or less at home after some 10 minutes of play. It's a little slow >though, despite a system with an i5 quadcore and an nvidia gtx 570 video >card. Fall from Heaven 2 on a huge map is snappier than this. > >On that subject: I'm running the dx10/11 client on Win7 64 ultimate --- >woohoo: this game really heats up the gpu: it's the first time ever that >I've heard the fans spin up to high speed, and the gpu is at 60 celsius >instead of the normal 40-45. Again FFH2 does not seem anywhere near as >demanding. > >Overall I can hardly give an opinion about the game per se: there are >enough new things to keep me entertained for now; for instance all the >wonders that used to give civilization-wide virtual building benefits >seem to be conceptually revamped. Furthermore strategic resources come >on a one by one basis - so if you have 1 iron resource you can have >exactly 1 swordman in the game, no more. Same goes for mounts. Which >forces interesting strategic new issues: expand to grab resources vs. >the increasing cost of cultural/civ advances with more cities and the >requirement of some wonders to have one of something in _every_ city. No >Oxford University unless you have a Uni in each of your cities, et >cetera. > >This will take some experimentation with _small_ civs vs. large ones. > >-P. Deja Vu, Except my negative experiences of Steam with Civ 5 meant I was not prepared to give Civ 5's radical reworking a chance to show they were actually improvements rather than madness and the game remained unplayed after the first attempt. -- Kevin Blackburn Kevin@fairbruk.demon.co.uk
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!94.232.116.12.MISMATCH!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!border2.hitnews.com!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!voer-me.highwinds-media.com!npeersf01.ams.highwinds-media.com!newsfe11.ams2.POSTED!00000000!not-for-mail Message-ID: <jiRGliCHDfRPFwYn@fairbruk.demon.co.uk> From: Kevin Blackburn <kevin@fairbruk.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Subject: Re: some thoughts regarding Civ5 References: <MPG.29b073c341ccd30b98969a@news.individual.net> Lines: 66 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M (<71kJOwaX4mhlwYP5s+8kb73gr9>) NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.177.14.38 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: newsfe11.ams2 1329984059 80.177.14.38 (Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:00:59 UTC) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:00:59 UTC Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:54:47 +0000 Bytes: 4681 X-Original-Bytes: 4626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit