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In <cptstern.3...@Cyberquest.com> cpts...@Cyberquest.com (Capt
Stern) writes: 
>
>In article <D7DAJ...@caprica.com> jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel)
writes:
>>From: jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel)
>>Subject: Re: Win95 and games: good news...
>>Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 04:16:25 GMT
>
>>Joshua Cyr (jm...@christa.unh.edu) wrote:
>
>>: I was told (by a good source) that even when you reboot to DOS,
there is 
>>: still the windows Kernel in the background.  Essentially, Windows
95 is an 
>>: operating system with something that looks like our old Dos... but
it 
>>: isn't our old DOS.  By the way, I have been using Win 95 for a few
months 
>>: now, and have been able to run everything just fine.  I am using
(now get 
>>: this)
>
>>: 486SX25, with 8MB Ram, sigh... it runs just as fast as windows
runs, but 
>>: the graphic routines are much much faster.  I play Herritic in a
Win 95 
>>: Dos window, with no slowdown, or problems at all.  Everything is so
easy 
>>: to configure, I can't help but to love it.  A big improvement for
game 
>>: fans.  I haven't used OS/2, so I cant make a comparison though.
>
>>To see is to believe, add the 'C:\' to the front of your PATH in the 
>>autoexec.bat and drop a file called 'WIN.BAT' into C:\ and make the
file 
>>contain:
>
>>echo No Windows for You!!
>
>>(Only one line).
>
>>Then tool around to your heart's content in DOS.  Or (simpler) choose
>>'Shutdown' and choose 'Restart computer in DOS mode?'.  Now watch for
the
>>restart, you won't see it.  What you will see is Windows exiting and
>>running the REST of the autoexec.bat to load any extra device drivers
it
>>needs under DOS. 
>
>>Here is what happens:
>
>>1. Cold boot, BIOS check
>>2. Boot DOS
>>3. DOS loads Windows
>>4. Windows uses its own device drivers if available, if not, you have
to 
>>preload them in the config.sys or autoexec.bat so they load when DOS
loads.
>>4A. Restart in DOS mode, run the DOS version of the device drivers
that 
>>Windows was using.
>
>>To illustrate, I have a PAS 16 with a SCSI Teac CD50 CDROM.  To use
it 
>>with Win'95, I don't have to load TSLCDR.SYS or MSCDEX.EXE, Windows
has 
>>native device drivers (which mean they are likely 32-bit).  To use it

>>under DOS, I have to load the drivers just like I would in MSDOS 6.2.
>
>>My girlfriend has an old Sony-Bus single speed CDROM and a PAS 16
(SCSI 
>>not used).  To use it with Win'95, I had to load the Sony driver and 
>>MSCDEX.EXE to get them to be used under Win'95.  Great thing is that 
>>using the DOS support, you still have Windows support, just like Win
3.1.
>
>>The moral is, when you're not running Win'95, you're running Win'95
DOS 
>>and DOS is still DOS...  
>
>>
>Well the DOS that is installed via WIN95 seemed pretty crippled.  And
not all 
>games work with it.
>For example: MPS/Master of Magic & Master of Orion both failed to run
with 
>sound enabled.  The "new" dos is missing even basic features such as
DELTREE,
>XCOPY, etc.
>I ran build 445 WIN95 for about 4 days, and then re-installed WFW 3.11
& PC 
>DOS 7.0.  More compatible, and that is the issue not how cool the OS
looks, or 
>how cool it runs.  Since an OS that runs really nice but won't run
your 
>software is just another way of describing the MAC & AMIGA's.
>

I think Win 95 is great... and it doesn't run on top of dos.  it just
seems like it is loading dos in the beginning for backward
compatibility.  

And what do you mean Deltree and xcopy are gone??  you just haven't
look or try it.  They are just moved to /windows/command/ directory.
Next time open your eyes before you talk ;)