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Re: <sigh> *** HUGE NEWS ABOUT WINDOWS 95 ***

#1952
From: to... Duke Toma
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 00:00
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scott@tcville.spl (Scott Channell, 23652, 74-25-44 ) writes:

>Jeez, will this stupid drivel never end ????

Prolly not.

>2) Most likely OS2 is indeed superior to Win-95, What the hell
>	does that matter ? Beta was better than VHS too but that

What does it matter?  What does it matter?!  Hello??  Every heard of 
progress?  Innovation??  I should think it matter's a great deal.  Do 
people have to settle for mediocraty?  Hell NO!!  But, unfourtunately 
most of the market seem to be sheep.  

>3) Yes, Win-95 is indeed just a stepping-stone to NT -- do you
>	think you are telling folks something that they don't
>	already know ? The main  goal of W95 is to get users
>	and applications into the 32-bit market without having
>	them migrate to a competitor. If anything, this sounds
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You hit a key point here.  This whole thing from Win 4.0 to Chicago to 
Win95 and the numerous pushed-back release dates has been a ploy to keep 
people from going over to OS/2.  Why should it take years longer for such 
a big and powerful company to make what you admit is most likely an 
inferior product?  MS is great at market manipulation if not writing OS's.


>4) Ponder this bit of truth : What does MS make ? PC S/W almost
>	exclusively, yes ? How difficult will it be for them to
>	get into another market and still make the profits that
>	they are making now ? Now, what does IBM make ? Almost
>	anything that you can think of, they have their fingers
>	in the market-pie. Somethings they do very well, some
>	things they over-manage. Now, how difficult will it be
>	for IBM to say "Oh well, we don't really feel that PC
>	operating systems make us enough profits. We'll move
>	on to other, more profitable ventures.", pretty damned
>	easy for them to do.

Look at it from another point of view:  since they are making profits in 
other areas, they're able to enter markets that might not be profitable 
in the short run.  They'd have the finances needed to make a bigger 
commitment then say a new company.  And, after investing a large sum on 
money, would they really be hasty about just dumping everything they worked
on?  There's also their reputation on the line.  Would anyone ever trust 
IBM again if they dumped OS/2 now?  A number of IBM employees, including 
some top execs recently called companies developing OS/2 software and 
reaffirmed their support of it.  Does it really look like their leaving 
any time soon?  I bet OS/2 will be here longer than Win95. 

>5) If IBM were indeed serious about upseating MS in the OS market
>	why did they stop the ad campaign ? I know that it costs

AFAIK, a big OS/2 ad compaign is set to run sometime is August, before 
the release of Win95.

-- 
      Jason  Hardt           'Meek and obedient you follow the leader,
to...@expert.cc.purdue.edu        Down well-trodden corridors 
       Team OS/2                  Into the valley of steel'
     Mithril Dragon   -==UDIC==-   
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From: to...@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Duke Toma)
Subject: Re: <sigh> *** HUGE NEWS ABOUT WINDOWS 95 ***
Date: 1995/07/08
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