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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:

>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>> 
>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> 
>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about it?
>> 
>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their offices in
>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I guess I
>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! :-))
>> 
>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular status
>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's development
>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>
>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?

Well...erm...err....oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot it, you
know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few years and
all! At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
and then the fire engines turned up.

Other than that nothing to report. And unfortunately I've since left that
company as it has been closed down but at least those developers over there
don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any more!
:-)

"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
news:mfmam4d8lvocqm9bd4se2kqvduqkhv3t2a@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>>>
>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon" 
>>> >> <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about 
>>> >>>it?
>>>
>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their 
>>> >> offices in
>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I 
>>> >> guess I
>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! :-))
>>>
>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular status
>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's 
>>> >development
>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>>
>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
>
> Well...erm...err....oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on 
> their
> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot it, 
> you
> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few years 
> and
> all! At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or 
> something
> and then the fire engines turned up.
>
> Other than that nothing to report. And unfortunately I've since left that
> company as it has been closed down but at least those developers over 
> there
> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any 
> more!
> :-)

Heyya Memnoch!

Hmm, do you work for a gaming industry btw? I had a weird notion that you do 
(before reading this post,mind you) ;)

Also: WHAT?...fire on their roof? ah man ... i hope nobody was hurt. Well at 
least nobody was FIRED,I trust ? :P (lame joke)

Lol, you stared them every day ? I could blackmail you that I will report 
you if you don't give me a free copy of Elite IV ;) 

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:44:55 GMT, Memnoch wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:
> 
>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote:
>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>>> 
>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon" <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about it?
>>> 
>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their offices in
>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I guess I
>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! :-))
>>> 
>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular status
>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's development
>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>>
>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
> 
> Well...erm...err....

Yes, yes: out with it, man.

> oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot it,

Well done! Of course, we expect nothing less from csipgs-s's number one
industry spy.

> you
> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few years and
> all!

That's the spirit!

> At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
> and then the fire engines turned up.

Don't tell me, let me guess: you donned firefighter's gear, rushed into the
building, bashed in Braben's door with your fire axe, and made copies of
his development notes?

> Other than that nothing to report.

Oh.

> And unfortunately I've since left that company 

Oh, dear. That's a blemish on your file, and no mistake.

> as it has been closed down 

Save the feeble excuses, if you don't mind.

> but at least those developers over there
> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any more!
> :-)

Oh, I think I see what you're getting at: Braben spotted you spying on him,
and realizing your cover was blown you arranged to have your "employer"
shut down as an excuse to relocate so you could continue to monitor the
development of Elite IV from a secure locale .... brilliant!

We look forward to your next report, due some time around 2012. Carry on!

Bret

"Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message 
news:no20tzef6ext.1nu524l4tayc6.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:44:55 GMT, Memnoch wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
>>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon" 
>>>> >> <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about 
>>>> >>>it?
>>>>
>>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their 
>>>> >> offices in
>>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I 
>>>> >> guess I
>>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! :-))
>>>>
>>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular 
>>>> >status
>>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's 
>>>> >development
>>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>>>
>>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
>>
>> Well...erm...err....
>
> Yes, yes: out with it, man.
>
>> oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
>> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot it,
>
> Well done! Of course, we expect nothing less from csipgs-s's number one
> industry spy.
>
>> you
>> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few 
>> years and
>> all!
>
> That's the spirit!
>
>> At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
>> and then the fire engines turned up.
>
> Don't tell me, let me guess: you donned firefighter's gear, rushed into 
> the
> building, bashed in Braben's door with your fire axe, and made copies of
> his development notes?
>
>> Other than that nothing to report.
>
> Oh.
>
>> And unfortunately I've since left that company
>
> Oh, dear. That's a blemish on your file, and no mistake.
>
>> as it has been closed down
>
> Save the feeble excuses, if you don't mind.
>
>> but at least those developers over there
>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any 
>> more!
>> :-)
>
> Oh, I think I see what you're getting at: Braben spotted you spying on 
> him,
> and realizing your cover was blown you arranged to have your "employer"
> shut down as an excuse to relocate so you could continue to monitor the
> development of Elite IV from a secure locale .... brilliant!
>
> We look forward to your next report, due some time around 2012. Carry on!
>
> Bret

Sarcasm overload... take it easy ;) 

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:06:18 +0100, "MindFever" <MindFever@blowme.org> wrote:

>
>
>"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
>news:mfmam4d8lvocqm9bd4se2kqvduqkhv3t2a@4ax.com...
>> Other than that nothing to report. And unfortunately I've since left that
>> company as it has been closed down but at least those developers over 
>> there
>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any 
>> more!
>> :-)
>
>Heyya Memnoch!
>
>Hmm, do you work for a gaming industry btw? I had a weird notion that you do 
>(before reading this post,mind you) ;)

Sadly no. I used to work in IT for a large pharma company, until it got bought
out by an even bigger one run by tossers and all but 10 of us quit or rather
accepted their very generous redundancy offer. :-))

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:19:01 GMT, Memnoch wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:06:18 +0100, "MindFever" <MindFever@blowme.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
>>news:mfmam4d8lvocqm9bd4se2kqvduqkhv3t2a@4ax.com...
>>> Other than that nothing to report. And unfortunately I've since left that
>>> company as it has been closed down but at least those developers over 
>>> there
>>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any 
>>> more!
>>> :-)
>>
>>Heyya Memnoch!
>>
>>Hmm, do you work for a gaming industry btw? I had a weird notion that you do 
>>(before reading this post,mind you) ;)
> 
> Sadly no. I used to work in IT for a large pharma company, until it got bought
> out by an even bigger one run by tossers and all but 10 of us quit or rather
> accepted their very generous redundancy offer. :-))

That's too bad about your old company. I hope you landed on your feet.

Bret

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:57:38 +0100, MindFever wrote:

> "Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message 
> news:no20tzef6ext.1nu524l4tayc6.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:44:55 GMT, Memnoch wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
>>>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon" 
>>>>> >> <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about 
>>>>> >>>it?
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their 
>>>>> >> offices in
>>>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I 
>>>>> >> guess I
>>>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! :-))
>>>>>
>>>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular 
>>>>> >status
>>>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's 
>>>>> >development
>>>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>>>>
>>>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
>>>
>>> Well...erm...err....
>>
>> Yes, yes: out with it, man.
>>
>>> oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
>>> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot it,
>>
>> Well done! Of course, we expect nothing less from csipgs-s's number one
>> industry spy.
>>
>>> you
>>> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few 
>>> years and
>>> all!
>>
>> That's the spirit!
>>
>>> At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
>>> and then the fire engines turned up.
>>
>> Don't tell me, let me guess: you donned firefighter's gear, rushed into 
>> the
>> building, bashed in Braben's door with your fire axe, and made copies of
>> his development notes?
>>
>>> Other than that nothing to report.
>>
>> Oh.
>>
>>> And unfortunately I've since left that company
>>
>> Oh, dear. That's a blemish on your file, and no mistake.
>>
>>> as it has been closed down
>>
>> Save the feeble excuses, if you don't mind.
>>
>>> but at least those developers over there
>>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any 
>>> more!
>>> :-)
>>
>> Oh, I think I see what you're getting at: Braben spotted you spying on 
>> him,
>> and realizing your cover was blown you arranged to have your "employer"
>> shut down as an excuse to relocate so you could continue to monitor the
>> development of Elite IV from a secure locale .... brilliant!
>>
>> We look forward to your next report, due some time around 2012. Carry on!
>>
>> Bret
> 
> Sarcasm overload

Elite IV's development arc was one of the minor (but persistent)
side-threads back when this froup was fairly active. The group's raison
d'etre, of course, was ... I forget. I think it had something to do with
Bill Huffman.

>... take it easy ;)

Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?

Bret

On the 10 Jan 2009, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Elite IV's development arc was one of the minor (but persistent)
> side-threads back when this froup was fairly active. The group's raison
> d'etre, of course, was ... I forget. I think it had something to do with
> Bill Huffman.

IIRC, csipg.strategic and csipg.flight-sim decided that discussing 
games where you flew around selling drugs and fluffy animals to aliens 
wasn't sufficiently on-topic and ran us out of town on a rail. Or 
something like that.

-- 
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"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:06:18 +0100, "MindFever" <MindFever@blowme.org> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Memnoch" <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>news:mfmam4d8lvocqm9bd4se2kqvduqkhv3t2a@4ax.com...
>>> Other than that nothing to report. And unfortunately I've since left 
>>> that
>>> company as it has been closed down but at least those developers over
>>> there
>>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any
>>> more!
>>> :-)
>>
>>Heyya Memnoch!
>>
>>Hmm, do you work for a gaming industry btw? I had a weird notion that you 
>>do
>>(before reading this post,mind you) ;)
>
> Sadly no. I used to work in IT for a large pharma company, until it got 
> bought
> out by an even bigger one run by tossers and all but 10 of us quit or 
> rather
> accepted their very generous redundancy offer. :-))

Ah man,sorry i brought that up ;) 

"Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message 
news:103aqitr1yqb$.5nos44m67jot.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:57:38 +0100, MindFever wrote:
>
>> "Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message
>> news:no20tzef6ext.1nu524l4tayc6.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:44:55 GMT, Memnoch wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
>>>>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon"
>>>>>> >> <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about
>>>>>> >>>it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their
>>>>>> >> offices in
>>>>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I
>>>>>> >> guess I
>>>>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! 
>>>>>> >> :-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular
>>>>>> >status
>>>>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's
>>>>>> >development
>>>>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
>>>>
>>>> Well...erm...err....
>>>
>>> Yes, yes: out with it, man.
>>>
>>>> oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
>>>> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot 
>>>> it,
>>>
>>> Well done! Of course, we expect nothing less from csipgs-s's number one
>>> industry spy.
>>>
>>>> you
>>>> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few
>>>> years and
>>>> all!
>>>
>>> That's the spirit!
>>>
>>>> At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
>>>> and then the fire engines turned up.
>>>
>>> Don't tell me, let me guess: you donned firefighter's gear, rushed into
>>> the
>>> building, bashed in Braben's door with your fire axe, and made copies of
>>> his development notes?
>>>
>>>> Other than that nothing to report.
>>>
>>> Oh.
>>>
>>>> And unfortunately I've since left that company
>>>
>>> Oh, dear. That's a blemish on your file, and no mistake.
>>>
>>>> as it has been closed down
>>>
>>> Save the feeble excuses, if you don't mind.
>>>
>>>> but at least those developers over there
>>>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any
>>>> more!
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Oh, I think I see what you're getting at: Braben spotted you spying on
>>> him,
>>> and realizing your cover was blown you arranged to have your "employer"
>>> shut down as an excuse to relocate so you could continue to monitor the
>>> development of Elite IV from a secure locale .... brilliant!
>>>
>>> We look forward to your next report, due some time around 2012. Carry 
>>> on!
>>>
>>> Bret
>>
>> Sarcasm overload
>
> Elite IV's development arc was one of the minor (but persistent)
> side-threads back when this froup was fairly active. The group's raison
> d'etre, of course, was ... I forget. I think it had something to do with
> Bill Huffman.
>
>>... take it easy ;)
>
> Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?
>
> Bret


WHAT? :) Bill Huffman? The guy who DEBUNKED Derek Smart's phony PHD? Are you 
sure? :) He rocked ,totaly ,back then...

> Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?

Dunno,read the FAQ of BC3000 (you will fail ;) ) :P at least you will learn 
patience in a ZEN-BUDDHIST kind of way... man, for that garbage one must 
become the divine itself.

Why do i keep to bring up DS and BC3k? Because it is a legendary piece of 
crap and because i still think DS owns me some money 

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:03:00 +0100, "MindFever" <MindFever@blowme.org> wrote:

>Why do i keep to bring up DS and BC3k? Because it is a legendary piece of 
>crap and because i still think DS owns me some money 

I have been looking on and off for a while now for a YouTube review of one of
the BC games and haven't found it yet. Perhaps DS has had it removed? I'm
pretty sure it was A World Apart. Anyway, I visited the 3000AD site to double
check the game name etc. It has to be one of the worst designed corporate
websites I have ever seen. For a professional game developer to use that as
his shop window is pretty shameful. I had a look at the job vacancies page and
there is no mention of web design on there so I guess they are happy!

I have to admire his balls though. Anyone who can continue to release the same
game over and over again and make it sell too really should be in charge of
getting some of us out of the financial mess we are in now. The latest
incarnation really doesn't look all that different than the previous
incarnations. There are some pretty cool looking desert formations and
reflective bodies of water but that's about it.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:23:59 GMT, Graham Thurlwell wrote:

> On the 10 Jan 2009, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Elite IV's development arc was one of the minor (but persistent)
>> side-threads back when this froup was fairly active. The group's raison
>> d'etre, of course, was ... I forget. I think it had something to do with
>> Bill Huffman.
> 
> IIRC, csipg.strategic and csipg.flight-sim decided that discussing 
> games where you flew around selling drugs and fluffy animals to aliens 
> wasn't sufficiently on-topic and ran us out of town on a rail.

The bastards. The least they could have done was run you out of town on a
fluffy animal.

> Or something like that.

That's how I remember it.

Bret

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:03:00 +0100, MindFever wrote:

> "Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message 
> news:103aqitr1yqb$.5nos44m67jot.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:57:38 +0100, MindFever wrote:
>>
>>> "Bret Ripley" <ripley@gotsky.com> wrote in message
>>> news:no20tzef6ext.1nu524l4tayc6.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:44:55 GMT, Memnoch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@gotsky.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
>>>>>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon"
>>>>>>> >> <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about
>>>>>>> >>>it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their
>>>>>>> >> offices in
>>>>>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I
>>>>>>> >> guess I
>>>>>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys! 
>>>>>>> >> :-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular
>>>>>>> >status
>>>>>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's
>>>>>>> >development
>>>>>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well...erm...err....
>>>>
>>>> Yes, yes: out with it, man.
>>>>
>>>>> oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
>>>>> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot 
>>>>> it,
>>>>
>>>> Well done! Of course, we expect nothing less from csipgs-s's number one
>>>> industry spy.
>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few
>>>>> years and
>>>>> all!
>>>>
>>>> That's the spirit!
>>>>
>>>>> At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
>>>>> and then the fire engines turned up.
>>>>
>>>> Don't tell me, let me guess: you donned firefighter's gear, rushed into
>>>> the
>>>> building, bashed in Braben's door with your fire axe, and made copies of
>>>> his development notes?
>>>>
>>>>> Other than that nothing to report.
>>>>
>>>> Oh.
>>>>
>>>>> And unfortunately I've since left that company
>>>>
>>>> Oh, dear. That's a blemish on your file, and no mistake.
>>>>
>>>>> as it has been closed down
>>>>
>>>> Save the feeble excuses, if you don't mind.
>>>>
>>>>> but at least those developers over there
>>>>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any
>>>>> more!
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I think I see what you're getting at: Braben spotted you spying on
>>>> him,
>>>> and realizing your cover was blown you arranged to have your "employer"
>>>> shut down as an excuse to relocate so you could continue to monitor the
>>>> development of Elite IV from a secure locale .... brilliant!
>>>>
>>>> We look forward to your next report, due some time around 2012. Carry 
>>>> on!
>>>>
>>>> Bret
>>>
>>> Sarcasm overload
>>
>> Elite IV's development arc was one of the minor (but persistent)
>> side-threads back when this froup was fairly active. The group's raison
>> d'etre, of course, was ... I forget. I think it had something to do with
>> Bill Huffman.
>>
>>>... take it easy ;)
>>
>> Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?
>>
>> Bret
> 
> 
> WHAT? :) Bill Huffman?

Please genuflect when you speak that name.

> The guy who DEBUNKED Derek Smart's phony PHD? 

The very same.

> Are you sure?

As sure as the day is long.

> :) He rocked ,totaly ,back then...

Yes, and somehow he managed to do so without transposing his commas and
spaces.

>> Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?
> 
> Dunno,read the FAQ of BC3000 (you will fail ;)

You are correct -- and I'm happy to continue failing for the foreseeable
future.

> ) :P at least you will learn 
> patience in a ZEN-BUDDHIST kind of way... man, for that garbage one must 
> become the divine itself.
> 
> Why do i keep to bring up DS and BC3k?

Because you are a DS sock-puppet trying to drum up attention?

(Randomly accusing people of being a DS sock-puppet was also a favorite
pastime in these parts.)

> Because it is a legendary piece of 
> crap and because i still think DS owns me some money

Why? Were you a Coke machine in a former life?

Bret

On Jan 12, 2:35 pm, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:03:00 +0100, MindFever wrote:
> > "Bret Ripley" <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote in message
> >news:103aqitr1yqb$.5nos44m67jot.dlg@40tude.net...
> >> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:57:38 +0100, MindFever wrote:
>
> >>> "Bret Ripley" <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:no20tzef6ext.1nu524l4tayc6.dlg@40tude.net...
> >>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:44:55 GMT, Memnoch wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:19:09 -0800, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>On Mar 30 2007, 10:34 am, Memnoch
> >>>>>><memn...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:36:26 -0700, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:44:51 GMT,Memnochwrote:
>
> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:22:08 GMT, "Jonah Falcon"
> >>>>>>> >> <jonahny...@mindspring.com>
> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> >>>How come this is being developed and there's almost no press about
> >>>>>>> >>>it?
>
> >>>>>>> >> Because there is next to no information about it I guess. Their
> >>>>>>> >> offices in
> >>>>>>> >> Cambridge are just across the road from me on the Science Park. I
> >>>>>>> >> guess I
> >>>>>>> >> could hang around and stare through their windows for you guys!
> >>>>>>> >> :-))
>
> >>>>>>> >OK, it's a deal.  Of course, we'll expect you to give us regular
> >>>>>>> >status
> >>>>>>> >reports on the project.  Considering the history of Elite IV's
> >>>>>>> >development
> >>>>>>> >cycle, an update every 2 or 3 years should be adequate.
>
> >>>>>>So, Memnoch: how's your first report coming along?
>
> >>>>> Well...erm...err....
>
> >>>> Yes, yes: out with it, man.
>
> >>>>> oh yeah, about 5 months or so ago they had a fire on their
> >>>>> roof. I was watching from upstairs and was probably the first to spot
> >>>>> it,
>
> >>>> Well done! Of course, we expect nothing less from csipgs-s's number one
> >>>> industry spy.
>
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> know, since I've been sitting there with binoculars for the last few
> >>>>> years and
> >>>>> all!
>
> >>>> That's the spirit!
>
> >>>>> At first we thought it was just buggered air conditioning or something
> >>>>> and then the fire engines turned up.
>
> >>>> Don't tell me, let me guess: you donned firefighter's gear, rushed into
> >>>> the
> >>>> building, bashed in Braben's door with your fire axe, and made copies of
> >>>> his development notes?
>
> >>>>> Other than that nothing to report.
>
> >>>> Oh.
>
> >>>>> And unfortunately I've since left that company
>
> >>>> Oh, dear. That's a blemish on your file, and no mistake.
>
> >>>>> as it has been closed down
>
> >>>> Save the feeble excuses, if you don't mind.
>
> >>>>> but at least those developers over there
> >>>>> don't have to worry about me staring at them from across the road any
> >>>>> more!
> >>>>> :-)
>
> >>>> Oh, I think I see what you're getting at: Braben spotted you spying on
> >>>> him,
> >>>> and realizing your cover was blown you arranged to have your "employer"
> >>>> shut down as an excuse to relocate so you could continue to monitor the
> >>>> development of Elite IV from a secure locale .... brilliant!
>
> >>>> We look forward to your next report, due some time around 2012. Carry
> >>>> on!
>
> >>>> Bret
>
> >>> Sarcasm overload
>
> >> Elite IV's development arc was one of the minor (but persistent)
> >> side-threads back when this froup was fairly active. The group's raison
> >> d'etre, of course, was ... I forget. I think it had something to do with
> >> Bill Huffman.
>
> >>>... take it easy ;)
>
> >> Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?
>
> >> Bret
>
> > WHAT? :) Bill Huffman?
>
> Please genuflect when you speak that name.
>
> > The guy who DEBUNKED Derek Smart's phony PHD?
>
> The very same.
>
> > Are you sure?
>
> As sure as the day is long.
>
> > :) He rocked ,totaly ,back then...
>
> Yes, and somehow he managed to do so without transposing his commas and
> spaces.
>
> >> Oh ... OK. Just how does one do that?
>
> > Dunno,read the FAQ of BC3000 (you will fail ;)
>
> You are correct -- and I'm happy to continue failing for the foreseeable
> future.
>
> > ) :P at least you will learn
> > patience in a ZEN-BUDDHIST kind of way... man, for that garbage one must
> > become the divine itself.
>
> > Why do i keep to bring up DS and BC3k?
>
> Because you are a DS sock-puppet trying to drum up attention?
>
> (Randomly accusing people of being a DS sock-puppet was also a favorite
> pastime in these parts.)
>
> > Because it is a legendary piece of
> > crap and because i still think DS owns me some money
>
> Why? Were you a Coke machine in a former life?
>
> Bret

They say Elite 4 is coming and I would like to see it hit the market
but we will probably be waiting for a while... :( There are some other
space sims coming out soon that look interesting like Jumpgate
Evolution  and The Black Prophecy. I also just recently started up a
space sim gaming website where I try to do my best to gather all the
info on all the happenings in the great gender. It's been online since
late December and I think it is layout complete and wouldn't mind some
feedback on the site :)

Check it out at http://www.spacesimcentral.com

Thanks

-D1-

On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:57:17 -0800 (PST), adultchitchat@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

>  I try to do my best to gather all the
> info on all the happenings in the great gender.

I think you probably mean "genre", but with space-sim you can't be too
sure.

Bret

On Feb 3, 12:48 pm, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:57:17 -0800 (PST), adultchitc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >  I try to do my best to gather all the
> > info on all the happenings in the great gender.
>
> I think you probably mean "genre", but with space-sim you can't be too
> sure.
>
> Bret

Thanks for the correction Bret :) I meant genre.

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:40:03 -0800 (PST), DarkOne wrote:

> On Feb 3, 12:48 pm, Bret Ripley <rip...@gotsky.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:57:17 -0800 (PST), adultchitc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>  I try to do my best to gather all the
>>> info on all the happenings in the great gender.
>>
>> I think you probably mean "genre", but with space-sim you can't be too
>> sure.
>>
>> Bret
> 
> Thanks for the correction Bret :) I meant genre.

Hey, no problem Mr. One. I see you've also corrected the spelling on your
website. I think that means I can now add "Website Design Consultant" to my
CV.

All kidding aside, good luck with your site.

Bret