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16 total messages Started by justin credible Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:52
Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104858
Author: justin credible
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:52
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After reading all the over-rated hype about Galactic Civ 2 and hoping
it would revive
the genre and inspire creative programers but alas,this sim GC will not
impress *experienced* players much imo,it's just another "civ" type
game and certainly not *creative*. When you compare it to the real
classics such as Game of the Year: Starflight
 it seems so shallow, unfortunately gaming in this genre has NOT
progressed but actually regressed especially when compared to classics
like Starflight which had actual storylines with depth..did all the
creative minds in this genre die..if you don't believe me,read some of
the SF links especially:

http://necrobones.com/starflt/


..you do the numbers!
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104859
Author: littlemute
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:16
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Try Strange Adventures in Infinite Space.
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104864
Author: Lemming
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:30
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On 9 Mar 2006 09:16:21 -0800, "littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org>
wrote:

>Try Strange Adventures in Infinite Space.

Spammers, as I recall (admittedly it has been some time since they
spammed c.s.i.pc.g.s-s, but I don't forget things like that.)

Lemming
-- 
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger's cat.
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
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Author: Lucian Wischik
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:13
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"littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org> wrote:
>Try Strange Adventures in Infinite Space.

They recently released a sequel called "Weird Worlds":
  http://www.shrapnelgames.com/digital_eel/Weird_worlds/1.htm

I bought both SAIS and Weird Worlds, and loved them both.

--
Lucian
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104865
Author: mcv
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:03
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Lemming <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2006 09:16:21 -0800, "littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org>
> wrote:
> 
>>Try Strange Adventures in Infinite Space.
> 
> Spammers, as I recall (admittedly it has been some time since they
> spammed c.s.i.pc.g.s-s, but I don't forget things like that.)

Really? I thought Cheapass Games was behind in, and they're an otherwise
pretty cool and praiseworthy company. I can't imagine them spamming, but
I've been wrong about people before.


mcv.
-- 
"Serenity is a very personal work with political resonance and a
heartfelt message about the human condition and stuff blowing up.
'Cause let's face it, nobody cares about that 'human condition'
stuff... in fact if you notice it, try to keep it to yourself."
                                        -- Joss Whedon on his new film
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104866
Author: Gerry Quinn
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:17
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In article <441589ad$0$24373$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, mcvmcv@xs4all.nl 
says...
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Lemming <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 9 Mar 2006 09:16:21 -0800, "littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >>Try Strange Adventures in Infinite Space.
> > 
> > Spammers, as I recall (admittedly it has been some time since they
> > spammed c.s.i.pc.g.s-s, but I don't forget things like that.)
> 
> Really? I thought Cheapass Games was behind in, and they're an otherwise
> pretty cool and praiseworthy company. I can't imagine them spamming, but
> I've been wrong about people before.

I don't recall any spamming.

If they posted an announcement of their game, that's not spamming.

- Gerry Quinn
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104861
Author: littlemute
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:50
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How is Weird Worlds?  I've got one older computer for the 'smaller'
games and older stuff (like MOO!!!) and I was worried before I bought
the new one about it loading up fast and working fast (it's one of
those play while stuck on the phone with mom sort of games, or about to
run out the door and want to get some gaming in).  It looks more
hardware intensive than the first one.
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104862
Author: Lucian Wischik
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:17
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"littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org> wrote:
>How is Weird Worlds?

A lot of fun!

In terms of hardware, I have it running on my two-year-old Thinkpad
laptop (ATI mobility radeon 9000) with no problems or slowdowns at
all. The graphics aren't animated, so I'm sure it's not at all
hardware-intensive.

--
Lucian
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104863
Author: Bartow W. Riggs
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:16
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"Lucian Wischik" <lu.nn@wischik.com> wrote in message 
news:8iud1299o5g4tv9t0f15hv9581vkoh6gf1@4ax.com...
> "littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org> wrote:
>>How is Weird Worlds?
>
> A lot of fun!
>
> In terms of hardware, I have it running on my two-year-old Thinkpad
> laptop (ATI mobility radeon 9000) with no problems or slowdowns at
> all. The graphics aren't animated, so I'm sure it's not at all
> hardware-intensive.
>
> --
> Lucian


A very nice littel game.  Lite in some ways deep in others.  It reminds me 
of "Pirates" (Sid Meier) a bit.  I play it all the time because you can 
finish a game in a half hour or so... 
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104867
Author: Lemming
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:08
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:17:54 -0000, Gerry Quinn
<gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie> wrote:

>In article <441589ad$0$24373$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, mcvmcv@xs4all.nl 
>says...
>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Lemming <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On 9 Mar 2006 09:16:21 -0800, "littlemute" <littlemute@woodenmen.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >>Try Strange Adventures in Infinite Space.
>> > 
>> > Spammers, as I recall (admittedly it has been some time since they
>> > spammed c.s.i.pc.g.s-s, but I don't forget things like that.)
>> 
>> Really? I thought Cheapass Games was behind in, and they're an otherwise
>> pretty cool and praiseworthy company. I can't imagine them spamming, but
>> I've been wrong about people before.
>
>I don't recall any spamming.
>
>If they posted an announcement of their game, that's not spamming.

Cool.  So does that mean I can post announcements of all my
businesses, and it's not spamming?  How about if I ignore any and all
replies?

Come on boys and girls - if a company posts an ad for their product
(be it a game or otherwise) and then don't respond to followup posts,
*surely* that's spamming?

Or did usenet IQs drop suddenly while I was away?

Lemming
-- 
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger's cat.
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104868
Author: Bill Huffman
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 01:40
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"Lemming" <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> Or did usenet IQs drop suddenly while I was away?

That's a tautology. Of course usenet IQs drop as soon as you're away.

Similar to how usenet IQs go up when I'm away. 
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104869
Author: Gerry Quinn
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:27
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In article <6sjj22944p8gqpl74jk58ddcq6re20mnu3@4ax.com>, 
thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk says...
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:17:54 -0000, Gerry Quinn
> <gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie> wrote:

> >If they posted an announcement of their game, that's not spamming.
> 
> Cool.  So does that mean I can post announcements of all my
> businesses, and it's not spamming?  How about if I ignore any and all
> replies?

I was writing for intelligent readers, so I left out the phrase "once, 
on a relevant newsgroup".

> Come on boys and girls - if a company posts an ad for their product
> (be it a game or otherwise) and then don't respond to followup posts,
> *surely* that's spamming?

I don't see that spamming is anything much to do with whether you 
respond to follow-up posts.  That can be a symptom of off-topic posts, 
but not a determining factor.

> Or did usenet IQs drop suddenly while I was away?

The total did, but the average didn't.

- Gerry Quinn
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104870
Author: mcv
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:08
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Gerry Quinn <gerryq@deletethisindigo.ie> wrote:
> In article <6sjj22944p8gqpl74jk58ddcq6re20mnu3@4ax.com>, 
> thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk says...
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:17:54 -0000, Gerry Quinn
>> <gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie> wrote:
> 
>> >If they posted an announcement of their game, that's not spamming.
>> 
>> Cool.  So does that mean I can post announcements of all my
>> businesses, and it's not spamming?  How about if I ignore any and all
>> replies?
> 
> I was writing for intelligent readers, so I left out the phrase "once, 
> on a relevant newsgroup".
> 
>> Come on boys and girls - if a company posts an ad for their product
>> (be it a game or otherwise) and then don't respond to followup posts,
>> *surely* that's spamming?
> 
> I don't see that spamming is anything much to do with whether you 
> respond to follow-up posts.  That can be a symptom of off-topic posts, 
> but not a determining factor.

I think the main thing about spamming, the definition of it, in fact,
is the volume. Spamming is posting the exact same message to multiple
groups without regard for the relevancy of that group. So if they
only posted it here, it may be advertising, it may be unwanted and
wrong, but it's not spam. If they posted the exact same message
to all computer gaming newsgroups, it's probably spam. If they
posted it to all vaguely computer or game related groups, it's
definitely spam.


mcv.
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
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Author: John Doe
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:40
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"justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote:

>  
> After reading all the over-rated hype about Galactic Civ 2 and
> hoping it would revive
> the genre and inspire creative programers but alas,this sim GC
> will not impress *experienced* players much imo,it's just another
> "civ" type game and certainly not *creative*. When you compare it
> to the real classics such as Game of the Year: Starflight
>  it seems so shallow, unfortunately gaming in this genre has NOT
> progressed but actually regressed especially when compared to
> classics like Starflight which had actual storylines with
> depth..

I see but don't understand why so many people require a story. Seems
you could watch a movie instead, movies are fun stories. But that is
also how many people treat computer games, always speaking in the
past tense. I like replayability. 

And speaking of science fiction, I'm looking forward to Supreme
Commander. But you never know whether it will actually happen or
what it will be like until it's published. We shall see. 
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104872
Author: Jim Vieira
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:40
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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> I see but don't understand why so many people require a story. Seems
> you could watch a movie instead, movies are fun stories. But that is
> also how many people treat computer games, always speaking in the
> past tense. I like replayability.
>
> And speaking of science fiction, I'm looking forward to Supreme
> Commander. But you never know whether it will actually happen or
> what it will be like until it's published. We shall see.

Don't you have a crappy RTS with crappy mechanics to design?
Re: Has the sci-fi genre completely died?
#104873
Author: John Doe
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:51
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> "John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns97AC1B4E2438F0123456789 207.115.17.102...
>> I see but don't understand why so many people require a story. Seems
>> you could watch a movie instead, movies are fun stories. But that is
>> also how many people treat computer games, always speaking in the
>> past tense. I like replayability.
>>
>> And speaking of science fiction, I'm looking forward to Supreme
>> Commander. But you never know whether it will actually happen or
>> what it will be like until it's published. We shall see.
> 
> Don't you have a crappy RTS with crappy mechanics to design?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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