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I should have known,SF is wiki'd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starflight

Troll bait.

"justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> After reading all the over-rated hype about Galactic Civ 2 and hoping
> it would revive
> the genre and inspire creative programers but alas,this sim GC will not
> impress *experienced* players much imo,it's just another "civ" type
> game and certainly not *creative*. When you compare it to the real
> classics such as Game of the Year: Starflight
> it seems so shallow, unfortunately gaming in this genre has NOT
> progressed but actually regressed especially when compared to classics
> like Starflight which had actual storylines with depth..did all the
> creative minds in this genre die..if you don't believe me,read some of
> the SF links especially:
>
> http://necrobones.com/starflt/
>
>
> ..you do the numbers!
> 

Pretty much on life-support. Star wolves looks decent though it's alot like
Privateer.

"justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141836745.306258.216430@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> After reading all the over-rated hype about Galactic Civ 2 and hoping
> it would revive
> the genre and inspire creative programers but alas,this sim GC will not
> impress *experienced* players much imo,it's just another "civ" type
> game and certainly not *creative*. When you compare it to the real
> classics such as Game of the Year: Starflight
>  it seems so shallow, unfortunately gaming in this genre has NOT
> progressed but actually regressed especially when compared to classics
> like Starflight which had actual storylines with depth..did all the
> creative minds in this genre die..if you don't believe me,read some of
> the SF links especially:
>
> http://necrobones.com/starflt/
>
>
> ..you do the numbers!
>

dawg wrote:
> Pretty much on life-support. Star wolves looks decent though it's alot like
> Privateer.


Pretty much what I thought , sci-fi fans are desperate for almost
anything hence the accolades for almost anything remotely sci-fi
oriented unfortunately, they will have to wait until another team like
those who created Starflight back in 1986...Starflight may have been
the *only* sci-fi game *ever* to win Game of the Year except maybe MOO?
If
GC2 got 9.0 on gamespot, that shows you something

... SF would get a perfect 12. ;)

On 8 Mar 2006 14:06:09 -0800, "justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>dawg wrote:
>> Pretty much on life-support. Star wolves looks decent though it's alot like
>> Privateer.
>
>
>Pretty much what I thought , sci-fi fans are desperate for almost
>anything hence the accolades for almost anything remotely sci-fi
>oriented unfortunately, they will have to wait until another team like
>those who created Starflight back in 1986...Starflight may have been
>the *only* sci-fi game *ever* to win Game of the Year except maybe MOO?
>If
>GC2 got 9.0 on gamespot, that shows you something
>
>... SF would get a perfect 12. ;)


Well Space Rangers 2 is pretty good. Although not a true space sim,
Star Wars Empire at war is fun also.

"justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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>
> dawg wrote:
>> Pretty much on life-support. Star wolves looks decent though it's alot 
>> like
>> Privateer.
>
>
> Pretty much what I thought , sci-fi fans are desperate for almost
> anything hence the accolades for almost anything remotely sci-fi
> oriented unfortunately, they will have to wait until another team like
> those who created Starflight back in 1986...Starflight may have been
> the *only* sci-fi game *ever* to win Game of the Year except maybe MOO?
> If
> GC2 got 9.0 on gamespot, that shows you something
>
> ... SF would get a perfect 12. ;)

Oh, oh gee, my god, a 12!!!

Despite only desiring to really be a tard in response to you're post (yes 
I'm a tard! :)) you do make a good point as well. BUT, you're discrediting 
GalCiv 2, it is by far one of the better, and more challenging games out at 
the moment for those who love 4X and a generally great AI to smack their 
heads against. It is NOT a sci-fi game in the sense of Privateer, Elite, 
Freespace, Freelancer, Vega Strike, IFH, Star Control 2 and 3, EV Nova, or 
you're Starflight. It's set in a futuristic setting, but that's just the 
setting, the theme, instead of different countries you've got different 
species, and so on. It's a turn based strategic game with sci-fi flavour. To 
people who enjoy a challange and the many nice features it brings us, it's 
easily a 9.

SO, with that out of the way, like I said, I sort of agree with you. They 
are being developed but they are certainly not mainstream. Try out Space 
Rangers 2, that will probably tickle your fancy. If you didn't recognize my 
reference to IFH, it stands for I Found Her, it's a Bablyon 5 game, in which 
you get to pilot the famous Fury in the B5 universe. Be warned, it's very 
challenging, uses Newtonian physics and is not for arcade players.

Good luck finding something to play, and thanks for the Starflight link, I'm 
going to have a look see now.

Ceo- 

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic justin credible <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote:
> I should have known,SF is wiki'd
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starflight

Sounds more like Star Control 2 than GalCiv. Not really a good example of
a strategy game, if you ask me.


mcv.
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"justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1141836745.306258.216430@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> After reading all the over-rated hype about Galactic Civ 2 and hoping
> it would revive
> the genre and inspire creative programers but alas,this sim GC will not
> impress *experienced* players much imo,it's just another "civ" type
> game and certainly not *creative*. When you compare it to the real
> classics such as Game of the Year: Starflight
> it seems so shallow, unfortunately gaming in this genre has NOT
> progressed but actually regressed especially when compared to classics
> like Starflight which had actual storylines with depth..did all the
> creative minds in this genre die..if you don't believe me,read some of
> the SF links especially:
>
> http://necrobones.com/starflt/

Hi Justin, science fiction is not a computer gaming genre. Sci-fi is a 
literature genre. Within computer gaming, sci-fi is theme that crosses 
gaming genres. IMHO, you've confused this when comparing GalCiv with 
space-sim genre games.

Have fun, 

"Allan Parent" <allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote in message 
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> Well Space Rangers 2 is pretty good. Although not a true space sim,
> Star Wars Empire at war is fun also.

Not a true space sim. Its not a space sim in any shape or form. Its just a 
boring rehash of a typical RTS game like Command and Conquer!

You can hardly answer an honest claim about the space simulation genre being 
dead with that kind of example! Sapce sims are dead and have been for years. 
Only Elite 4 can save us.

Nats 

"justin credible" <highpurity@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1141836745.306258.216430@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> After reading all the over-rated hype about Galactic Civ 2 and hoping
> it would revive
> the genre and inspire creative programers but alas,this sim GC will not
> impress *experienced* players much imo,it's just another "civ" type
> game and certainly not *creative*. When you compare it to the real
> classics such as Game of the Year: Starflight
> it seems so shallow, unfortunately gaming in this genre has NOT
> progressed but actually regressed especially when compared to classics
> like Starflight which had actual storylines with depth..did all the
> creative minds in this genre die..if you don't believe me,read some of
> the SF links especially:

If what you are looking for is "Sci-Fi with amazing story" then you must try 
Bungie's Marathon. It's a first person shooter but throughout the game you 
interact through computer terminals that reveal a crazy story. You can 
actually read all the terminals at http://marathon.bungie.org/story/ but you 
can download the game for free now using AlephOne from 
http://source.bungie.org/ There is Marathon 1 and 2 and Infinity. To play 
Marathon 1 you need to get "M1A1" Everyone should have this. 

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:05:37 -0000, "Nats"
<nstutt@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Allan Parent" <allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote in message 
>news:ejnu02purb3ek8dfgoeh5kd8ntae4ve7cr@4ax.com...
>> Well Space Rangers 2 is pretty good. Although not a true space sim,
>> Star Wars Empire at war is fun also.
>
>Not a true space sim. Its not a space sim in any shape or form. Its just a 
>boring rehash of a typical RTS game like Command and Conquer!
>
>You can hardly answer an honest claim about the space simulation genre being 
>dead with that kind of example! Sapce sims are dead and have been for years. 
>Only Elite 4 can save us.
>
>Nats 
>

Ummm....that's what I said. Perhaps Sci-fi would have been a better
choice of words. EaW is still fun regardless of the genre. Elite 4?
Lol! how many time have I heard that title being thrown out?