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Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
on me with ALL details on LOW.

X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
beyond Bullshit.

Thye deserver all the bad feedback and abuse they can get. I got baned
off Egosoft forum for the 2nd time for speaking my mind. they don't
like you sayin bad stuff about their game. 

They dont listen and they create pile sof shit yet again.

Oh well maybe they will listen someday X10 anyone ?


On 14 Nov 2005 02:24:33 -0800, its_not_my_fault_5@hotmail.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Please, before purchasing X3, take a LONG look at the forums on the
>site. I purchased my copy a couple of weeks ago and even after patch
>1.2.01 it freezes, stutters etc etc.
>
>Although the tech support on the forums is encouraging, they all too
>often resort to telling people that they have a problem with their
>machine, rather than the game having any issues.
>
>Many people upgraded to 1.2.01, found it was much worse than 1.2 but
>then found, to their astonishment, that the 1.2 patch had been removed
>from the site ! So there's no going back for them then.
>
>There are SO many issues with the game that the cavalier attitude of
>releasing the game because the distributors HAD to release it is
>frustrating and annoying.
>
>One example is the manual; when a poster stated that there are many
>options in the manual that are not in the game, the response they got
>(to paraphrase) was "the manual was for X2 and we changed it a bit -
>stuff got taken out but we had already brought the manual out so its
>wrong now" (this is added to the fact there is no *newer* manual online
>(although there is of course a FAQ).
>
>Posters have complained about trade descriptions; that the product does
>not work as advertised. Many users have several high end games, have a
>fantastic gaming rig, and yet Egosoft are still saying they must have
>problems with their machine.
>
>I do believe, by patch 1.4 or so, that Egosoft will have produced a
>great game, like X2, that will be enjoyable and played by many - no
>issues there at all. However, the process of releaseing a substandard
>game because of all of the graphics issues and incorrect manual will
>not go unnoticed. Next time they release a game, if another space-sim
>is being offered by another company then I will buy the other one.
>
>Bring on ELITE 4 !!!

Yep second that brother.

It's really got on my tits how they have the nerve to produce a game
that is at the level it is at. I understand software is very complex
(sheesh I am a developer myself) and I also understand that it is very
difficult to take account of everyone's video cards/cpu combinations
etc.

However, it can't be sooo hard that it is impossible, because I have
been able to run many games straight out of the box - such as
HalfLife2, Quake4 etc.

Jeez ....


Alex broden wrote:
> Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
> on me with ALL details on LOW.
>
> X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
> beyond Bullshit.
>
> Thye deserver all the bad feedback and abuse they can get. I got baned
> off Egosoft forum for the 2nd time for speaking my mind. they don't
> like you sayin bad stuff about their game.
>
> They dont listen and they create pile sof shit yet again.
>
> Oh well maybe they will listen someday X10 anyone ?
>
>
> On 14 Nov 2005 02:24:33 -0800, its_not_my_fault_5@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Please, before purchasing X3, take a LONG look at the forums on the
> >site. I purchased my copy a couple of weeks ago and even after patch
> >1.2.01 it freezes, stutters etc etc.
> >
> >Although the tech support on the forums is encouraging, they all too
> >often resort to telling people that they have a problem with their
> >machine, rather than the game having any issues.
> >
> >Many people upgraded to 1.2.01, found it was much worse than 1.2 but
> >then found, to their astonishment, that the 1.2 patch had been removed
> >from the site ! So there's no going back for them then.
> >
> >There are SO many issues with the game that the cavalier attitude of
> >releasing the game because the distributors HAD to release it is
> >frustrating and annoying.
> >
> >One example is the manual; when a poster stated that there are many
> >options in the manual that are not in the game, the response they got
> >(to paraphrase) was "the manual was for X2 and we changed it a bit -
> >stuff got taken out but we had already brought the manual out so its
> >wrong now" (this is added to the fact there is no *newer* manual online
> >(although there is of course a FAQ).
> >
> >Posters have complained about trade descriptions; that the product does
> >not work as advertised. Many users have several high end games, have a
> >fantastic gaming rig, and yet Egosoft are still saying they must have
> >problems with their machine.
> >
> >I do believe, by patch 1.4 or so, that Egosoft will have produced a
> >great game, like X2, that will be enjoyable and played by many - no
> >issues there at all. However, the process of releaseing a substandard
> >game because of all of the graphics issues and incorrect manual will
> >not go unnoticed. Next time they release a game, if another space-sim
> >is being offered by another company then I will buy the other one.
> >
> >Bring on ELITE 4 !!!

Alex broden wrote:
> 
> Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
> on me with ALL details on LOW.
> 
> X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
> beyond Bullshit.
> 


In case anyone is interested, this Alex poster (formally known as Kate) 
is an addicted liar and troll.

in the action games group he/she is constantly whining about games 
stuttering and being too "dark". His/her machine is clearly hosed.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:27:35 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:

>Alex broden wrote:
>> 
>> Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
>> on me with ALL details on LOW.
>> 
>> X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
>> beyond Bullshit.
>> 
>
>
>In case anyone is interested, this Alex poster (formally known as Kate) 
>is an addicted liar and troll.
>
>in the action games group he/she is constantly whining about games 
>stuttering and being too "dark". His/her machine is clearly hosed.

Undoubtedly but I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. Hey
Alex/Kate or whoever you really are. If you actually have the game what's your
handle on the forums?

I dont have X3 had X2 and i dont tink they are much different anyways
now.



On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:31:33 GMT, Memnoch
<memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:27:35 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Alex broden wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
>>> on me with ALL details on LOW.
>>> 
>>> X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
>>> beyond Bullshit.
>>> 
>>
>>
>>In case anyone is interested, this Alex poster (formally known as Kate) 
>>is an addicted liar and troll.
>>
>>in the action games group he/she is constantly whining about games 
>>stuttering and being too "dark". His/her machine is clearly hosed.
>
>Undoubtedly but I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. Hey
>Alex/Kate or whoever you really are. If you actually have the game what's your
>handle on the forums?

Alex broden wrote:
> 
> I dont have X3 had X2 and i dont tink they are much different anyways
> now.
> 


Redefines stupidity.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:03:28 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:

>Alex broden wrote:
>> 
>> I dont have X3 had X2 and i dont tink they are much different anyways
>> now.
>> 
>
>
>Redefines stupidity.

Yes, considering "their" previous posts. And I quote:

"Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
on me with ALL details on LOW."

Wow. X3 must be shit. Alex/Kate said it was even with low details. But then:

"X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
beyond Bullshit."

Ah, they were actually talking about X2. So X3 is shit because X2 didn't run
well. Thank god we got that cleared up.

Memnoch wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:03:28 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Alex broden wrote:
>>
>>>I dont have X3 had X2 and i dont tink they are much different anyways
>>>now.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Redefines stupidity.
> 
> 
> Yes, considering "their" previous posts. And I quote:
> 
> "Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
> on me with ALL details on LOW."
> 
> Wow. X3 must be shit. Alex/Kate said it was even with low details. But then:
> 
> "X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
> beyond Bullshit."
> 
> Ah, they were actually talking about X2. So X3 is shit because X2 didn't run
> well. Thank god we got that cleared up.


It was nice of you to try and give he/she the benefit of the doubt : but 
these sort of posters defined the need for killfiles.

"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:3u0oppFue2h2U4@uni-berlin.de...
> Memnoch wrote:

>> Ah, they were actually talking about X2. So X3 is shit because X2 didn't 
>> run
>> well. Thank god we got that cleared up.
>
> It was nice of you to try and give he/she the benefit of the doubt : but 
> these sort of posters defined the need for killfiles.

Without being a prick I tend to agree. Both names you mentioned were 
negative in a rather... blind manner and weren't really... well, never mind.

I do agree with what the OP said, by 1.4 this will be a great game, I'm 
waiting till then, and am not going to be negative. It was a $100 (AUD) that 
will be considered well spent eventually, so why fuss?

Ceo- 

Quoth The Raven; Ceowulf <ceo@NOSPAMii.ATALLnet> in
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> "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3u0oppFue2h2U4@uni-berlin.de...
>> Memnoch wrote:
>
>>> Ah, they were actually talking about X2. So X3 is shit because X2
>>> didn't run
>>> well. Thank god we got that cleared up.
>>
>> It was nice of you to try and give he/she the benefit of the doubt :
>> but these sort of posters defined the need for killfiles.
>
> Without being a prick I tend to agree. Both names you mentioned were
> negative in a rather... blind manner and weren't really... well,
> never mind.
> I do agree with what the OP said, by 1.4 this will be a great game,
> I'm waiting till then, and am not going to be negative. It was a $100
> (AUD) that will be considered well spent eventually, so why fuss?
>
> Ceo-

i havent found a store in sydney that stocks x3 yet, where'd you get it?

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Last time i read its out on the 28th November in Australia !!!!

He might be usin ghte naughty version.



On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:28:27 +1100, "Highlandish"
<ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote:

>Quoth The Raven; Ceowulf <ceo@NOSPAMii.ATALLnet> in
><437b33af$0$10000$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>
>> "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3u0oppFue2h2U4@uni-berlin.de...
>>> Memnoch wrote:
>>
>>>> Ah, they were actually talking about X2. So X3 is shit because X2
>>>> didn't run
>>>> well. Thank god we got that cleared up.
>>>
>>> It was nice of you to try and give he/she the benefit of the doubt :
>>> but these sort of posters defined the need for killfiles.
>>
>> Without being a prick I tend to agree. Both names you mentioned were
>> negative in a rather... blind manner and weren't really... well,
>> never mind.
>> I do agree with what the OP said, by 1.4 this will be a great game,
>> I'm waiting till then, and am not going to be negative. It was a $100
>> (AUD) that will be considered well spent eventually, so why fuss?
>>
>> Ceo-
>
>i havent found a store in sydney that stocks x3 yet, where'd you get it?

Quoth The Raven; Paul Mathews <paulmathews@1.com.au> in
<krtnn15p323np9ov3msrdv3mcgjbd90ipb@4ax.com>
> Last time i read its out on the 28th November in Australia !!!!
>
> He might be usin ghte naughty version.

I think you might be right, or he might have bought it online
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:27:35 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Alex broden wrote:
>> 
>> Its a pile of crap. Even if they patch it to 2.0 and beyond. Stuttered
>> on me with ALL details on LOW.
>> 
>> X2 iam talking about. And if it still stutters on X3. Well that is
>> beyond Bullshit.
>> 
>
>
>In case anyone is interested, this Alex poster (formally known as Kate) 
>is an addicted liar and troll.

It should fit in well here then, if only it would post in English.

>in the action games group he/she is constantly whining about games 
>stuttering and being too "dark". His/her machine is clearly hosed.

Lemming
-- 
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger's cat.

For a machine that runes Quake 4 Easaly, I find X3's performance
saddening, especially Argon Prime. I am a patient person so back to eve
while I wait for patches to this.

BAAHAHAHAAH funnt Xp 2500 runs fine BAHAHAHHAHAhA.


On 18 Nov 2005 03:03:36 -0800, "Harcon" <harcon01@hotmail.com> wrote:

>For a machine that runes Quake 4 Easaly, I find X3's performance
>saddening, especially Argon Prime. I am a patient person so back to eve
>while I wait for patches to this.

*shrug* - it does. Runs fine and smooth.

So your the one :)

99.9% of the people have stutters. Get in a BIG battle.


On 21 Nov 2005 15:09:03 -0800, "smithcorp" <briansmith@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>*shrug* - it does. Runs fine and smooth.

Paul Mathews wrote:
> So your the one :)
>
> 99.9% of the people have stutters. Get in a BIG battle.
>
>
> On 21 Nov 2005 15:09:03 -0800, "smithcorp" <briansmith@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >*shrug* - it does. Runs fine and smooth.


Mine runs well enough.  2.6 GHz P4, 1GB RAM, ATI 9800 Raedon Pro.
Medium settings, no AA. lowest res (what is it.. 1280x1024 or so).

It *is* obviously a buggy release, but I can see the potential.  This
is my first look at the X universe..  obviously a big Elite influence .
 (To be honest, I've only recently discovered the presence of this
'Elite' cult following... I used to play that game on me C-64).

My biggest problem with this game is the voice acting and player
models/avatars.  The would have been far better off leaving it out
entirely.  I suppose it's probably not half as bad if played in it's
native tounge, but the translators are BRUTAL. Leave out *all* that
crap acting as far as I'm concerned..  my imagination can fill in the
blanks far better than these C grade actors.

I dunno.. it's far from 'crap' in my opinion, but then again,  I'm not
having too many actual game-play issues, other than the occasional
choppy cut scene (which I'm quick on the trigger to escape out of
anyways).  It's really unfortunate that the acting/translation is SOOO
bad, and the pretty much all of the organic models (the busts of the
human pilots, aliens, etc) are borderline ridiculous, especially when
compared with the outstanding detail and complexity of all the other
in-game models (ships, stations, planets).

The lack of a proper tutorial is a big hit against it as well.

I dunno.. if you liked Elite, Privateer, and are the type more
interested in building your own epic story (not following the cheeze
script), then this one should be a hit.  If only someone would do a
complete re-recording of pretty much ALL the (English) voice acting...

Game seems to be an absolutely HUGE memory hog, I reckon most peoples
stutters are down to having 512Mb or less. the game takes over 1Gb.
Egosoft claim that the next patch will make it more memory efficient -
I'm not going to hold my breath.

Can't imagine why they need all that ram, lots of recent games run well
with a much smaller memory footprint.

Sloppy coding is my guess.

Mark

Paul Mathews wrote:
> So your the one :)
>
> 99.9% of the people have stutters. Get in a BIG battle.
>
>
> On 21 Nov 2005 15:09:03 -0800, "smithcorp" <briansmith@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >*shrug* - it does. Runs fine and smooth.

Might have beenthe reason my Old X2 Stuttered. Only had 512 back then.
Now got 1 gig, soon to be 2 gig :0


On 24 Nov 2005 08:01:07 -0800, "Mark Wood"
<andrew.mark.wood@gmail.com> wrote:

>Game seems to be an absolutely HUGE memory hog, I reckon most peoples
>stutters are down to having 512Mb or less. the game takes over 1Gb.
>Egosoft claim that the next patch will make it more memory efficient -
>I'm not going to hold my breath.
>
>Can't imagine why they need all that ram, lots of recent games run well
>with a much smaller memory footprint.
>
>Sloppy coding is my guess.
>
>Mark
>
>Paul Mathews wrote:
>> So your the one :)
>>
>> 99.9% of the people have stutters. Get in a BIG battle.
>>
>>
>> On 21 Nov 2005 15:09:03 -0800, "smithcorp" <briansmith@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >*shrug* - it does. Runs fine and smooth.

"Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message 
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> Quoth The Raven; Paul Mathews <paulmathews@1.com.au> in
> <krtnn15p323np9ov3msrdv3mcgjbd90ipb@4ax.com>
>> Last time i read its out on the 28th November in Australia !!!!
>>
>> He might be usin ghte naughty version.
>
> I think you might be right, or he might have bought it online

Yea I purchased it straight through Egosoft, got the book with it which was 
less than fantastic but more than just ok. ;)

I've seen it in 2 EB's here in Perth now, lots of them actually, I'm talking 
big shelf space, which was a surprise!

Ceo- 

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> "Highlandish" <ckreskay_CURSEING@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>> Quoth The Raven; Paul Mathews <paulmathews@1.com.au> in
>> <krtnn15p323np9ov3msrdv3mcgjbd90ipb@4ax.com>
>>> Last time i read its out on the 28th November in Australia !!!!
>>>
>>> He might be usin ghte naughty version.
>>
>> I think you might be right, or he might have bought it online
>
> Yea I purchased it straight through Egosoft, got the book with it
> which was less than fantastic but more than just ok. ;)
>
> I've seen it in 2 EB's here in Perth now, lots of them actually, I'm
> talking big shelf space, which was a surprise!
>
> Ceo-

well next week i'll take another look. i'm sick of action games at the 
moment, i need immersion so i'll quit guildwars the day i get x3

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On 22 Nov 2005 06:00:37 -0800, bluphysted@hotmail.com wrote:

>I dunno.. if you liked Elite

Nope.

> Privateer

Yep.

> and are the type more interested in building your own epic story (not following the cheeze
>script),

Not interested in either of those things, thanks. No story = no game.
It's just a flight sim. That's not exactly "Privateer" you know...

> then this one should be a hit. 

Why should it? X2 is, hands down, the worst space game I ever played.
And since I played every space game ever made on the PC, that's pretty
bad. How much better is X3 than X2?

In an earlier post, Mark Wood postulated:
> Game seems to be an absolutely HUGE memory hog, I reckon most peoples
> stutters are down to having 512Mb or less. the game takes over 1Gb.
> Egosoft claim that the next patch will make it more memory efficient -
> I'm not going to hold my breath.
>
> Can't imagine why they need all that ram, lots of recent games run well
> with a much smaller memory footprint.
>
> Sloppy coding is my guess.
>
> Mark

And nothing to do with the number of "in play" elements at the same
time? The ongoing background AI? The huge play areas? You're showing
off is my guess.