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Article #106182Re: New ruling could eventually lead to blocking of used game sales
From: Dimensional Traveler
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:40
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:40
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On 9/18/2010 12:52 PM, Rin Stowleigh wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:14:22 -0700 (PDT), Insane Ranter > <log...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sep 18, 5:30 am, Tim O<timo56...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> I'm expecting digital downloads to be the trend rather than this. They >>> pretty much gut the resale aspect, and the thing really holding them >>> back is that limited size of console hard drives. I'd expect next gen >>> console systems (I know there really aren't any officially in the >>> pipe) to have huge hard drives. They've gone from being a data >>> buffer/save game tool in consoles to a true storage medium just like >>> in a PC. >> >> This idea just makes me go why not just make everything for PC and >> screw the whole console idea. > > I'm always on a quest to try to understand the appeal of consoles and > why some would choose them over PC games. The best conclusion I've > come to is that so many people view a console as a very simple > entertainment appliance: you buy the box then buy some games... then > done. > > With PCs there is a false perception that everything is more > complicated. Maybe there is some small amount of truth there, in the > sense that in order to get the most out of PC gaming, you need to know > a little more about hardware, video card options, etc and be willing > to upgrade some things once in a while. There are lots of consumers > that just seem overwhelmed by that. > > I usually work on teams with very technical people. I would say the > majority of those do most of their gaming on consoles. That would > seem to contradict the "PCs are difficult or scary to deal with" > theory. I sometimes ask around, why an Xbox or PS3 instead of PC? > I've gotten various answers, some have told me that they don't like > the hardware upgrade cycle, some say they just enjoy laying back on > the couch doing everything with the wireless controller, and the > benefit of their big TV. A few guys I know got PS3s simply as a way > to play the latest games, because they perceived a cost advantage over > upgrading their aging PC which was otherwise still very usable for > everything they did (except play cutting edge games). One fellow told > me a story about how his memories of PC gaming involved > troubleshooting IRQ conflicts on sound cards and such, and that he's > just glad to be done with all that (it didn't matter that nobody has > dealt with IRQ conflicts in a long time, that was the impression left > in his mind). The point is that sometimes even very technical people > sometimes have an impression that PC games are a pain in the ass. So, > in their mind they can just buy whatever the latest console is and be > done with it. A shame, since PC gaming has come a long way. > > Getting back to the subject of used game sales, I do agree that it is > highly likely the next iteration of consoles is going to offer (if not > mandate) a download-distribution model along the lines of Steam. If > not that, they will go to something like these services where the > games all execute in the cloud, and your console is really just a dumb > terminal that lets you remotely play the game. > Regarding the "PC Hardware Upgrade Cycle": Don't they have to deal with the same thing buying new game consoles so they can play the newest games? -- "There's something that doesn't make sense. Let's go and poke it with a stick."
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!novia!news-xfer.nntp.sonic.net!posts.news.sonic.net!nnrp1.nntp.sonic.net!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:40:21 -0700 From: Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim Subject: Re: New ruling could eventually lead to blocking of used game sales References: <6b63a4e0-6655-46f4-8e3d-d507931ef1c9@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <649a2147-b375-44d6-aac5-da1f51059a0c@s17g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <bb0996ticdlrdobnv60g7s70podt0s76ss@4ax.com> <6d7024ff-bb7b-4f3b-b9f8-c3dda1d563dd@u13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com> <d15a96h2rs0a3kqt9p4emvbd2p1cugp5hp@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <d15a96h2rs0a3kqt9p4emvbd2p1cugp5hp@4ax.com> Lines: 62 Message-ID: <4c9531c4$0$1622$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Organization: Sonic.Net NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Sep 2010 21:40:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 3b0f02d1.news.sonic.net X-Trace: DXC=XCj]o^JZ^X?>`oL3C<JMB3m4K\QM1CV^01OYf0H`?;X116ME5HML3X?c4h__dCA6@:@CQhlcTD8H7Vc9=<oX^o:: X-Complaints-To: ab...@sonic.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit