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Re: Freespace: A half step forward?

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From: Delance Delance
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 00:00
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mi...@netcom.com (John DiCamillo) wrote:

>>	As for WC, there's inertia, since WC1. It's really easy to
>>prove, just fly head on a capship at full speed and turn 90 degrees.
>>You'll hit the capship, even if you are facing empty space. You can't
>>do it with Freespace nor X-Wing. End of story.
>
>You are confusing "inertia" or linear momentum with angular
>momentum.  Inertia is the tendency for an object to continue
>moving in a straight line until acted upon by some force.
>Angular momentum is the tendency for an object to keep rotating
>about its center of mass until acted upon by some force.
>
>Freespace and IWar use physics models with both linear and
>angular momentum, the WC series uses a physics model with
>linear momentum only.

	Actually... You might be right on that.

	As a note, I have made some tests with the Apollo fighter and
the GTC Orff on the Freespace demo, and it's quite hard to make a 90o
turn and still hit the ship, even at full speed, unlike WC games.
Also, I'd like to no that the physics model of WCP is different from
the previous WC games.

>>	It's somewhat irrelevant! Of course all those space fighters
>>have some kind of gravity generator! There's gravity on the capships,
>>right? So on the fighters there's some way to counter the G-effects.
>>Or else a fighter that would accelerate from 0 to 1500kps in a few
>>seconds would probably kill anyone.
>
>And of course, 1500 kps is not equal to 1500 km/s or even
>1500 m/s.  Think about it: if you were traveling 1500 km
>each second, how long would it take to fly the length of
>a 2000 meter ship like the Midway?
>
>Answer: about 0.0013 seconds.
>
>Based on the observable speeds of the fighters (about 10
>or 20 seconds to fly 2km at 1500kps) we can estimate their
>speed in contemporary units as being around 200 - 300 knots
>tops.  They accelerate pretty quickly, but a standard G
>suit should suffice.  No gravity generators are needed,
>which is not to say that they are not included.

	Knots?? Hey, can you translate this to the metric system? :)

	Well... WC ships accelerate pretty fast. It would be almost
impossible for pilots to sustain this massive stress, hours and hours
almost everyday, w/o some kind of gravity generator... 1 or 2 times,
fine, but several times everyday with this kind of G-force is
stressing.

	Not to mention that the fighting capacity of a pilot under
this force would suffer a lot.


     >> Delance <<
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