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Re: PC Gamer Review of Universal Combat: A World Apart

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From: Shingen
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:19
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:22:50 -0000, "Nats"
<nstutt@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcgloabl.net> wrote in message 
>news:898em152ggfoos8n36nbi9l6gbbe5rbcg2@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 02:28:15 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>> See..you could almost equate Derek with The Great Breadbin...and
>> conversely, you could equate David with The Supreme Commander...
>>
>> Both games had the same flaws.
>>
>> Both were in fact the best PC space-sims ever created...
>>
>> Both were horribly buggy and crash prone. Neither had a competent AI,
>> or industry graphics,  but they both had enough to addict certain
>> gamers..such as myself. This fact should NOT be taken lightly.
>
>Im glad I noticed that you said 'almost equate' when comparing the BK and 
>Elite games - I was about to write a massive flaming post on how no-one 
>could ever favourably compare the crap of BK with the fanastic beauty of the 
>Elite games. 
..and "no one" in your assumption would be? I fear your mind is
entirely closed to be of any use. I mean, we ARE talking and PC games
here! Sure, Elite was the first of it's kind, as was Frontier/FFE, but
also so was BC3K! 

If I remember correctly, Frontier was horribly flawed out of the box,
as was FFE. Frontier was at least playable. FFE wasn't playable for
several patches.

BC3K was horribly flawed..and STILL, even after the last 2.09 patch,
not very playable. BUT, Derek AT LEAST kept to the vision, and now, BC
is VERY playable. YOU may not play it, but it doesn't change price of
tea in China.

>Both Frontier and First Encounters were well ahead of their 
>time in terms of graphics, open gameplay, size, flexibility, immersion, fun 
>and stellar depiction etc etc and both games kept my attention for years. No 
>game in any genre has even come close to rivalling these since. As for BK it 
>has always been an overhyped bugged mess of a franchise, playing which 
>always resulted in frustration rather than enjoyment.
>

David left Elite with FFE. John Jordan MADE the game playable!

Nevermind..I'm preaching to the choir... =P

>Nats 
>
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