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freestone wilson wrote:

> hi all.
>
> what is the deepest, rpg?
> ---  or even the most complicated or involved?!
>
>  Anthony E. Strozyk , in his remenising about old rpgs, wrote about
> "the good old days".   the old rpgs when "games were Games", a few
> days ago.!
>
> not clickfests.
> not linar paths.
> not dumbed down everythings....
>
> but what ARE they?   what games were like this, or
> maybe...[hope...hope...]
> or maybe, what games are like this today?
>
> I am beginning ARCANUM.  tis it looks like a near-relative, of these
> old games, maybe close.
>
> so people....what rpgs are the deepest, most complicated?
> perhaps..."WERE" would be a better adjective!!
>
> freestone

Of recent I'd say

Morrowind has the deepest character development, not the most complex.

Arcanum has a nice deep tech vs magic scheme (some balance problems, not
TOO outrageous though).

Wizardry 8 is the bread and butter party management king of recent.

Dungeon Siege, imo, is probably the most tactically challenging (on the
Hard setting) concerning positioning and using of spells, in real time
(wiz 8 is still the most tactically challening).

Avernum / Geneforge are indie games that actually have simple but
challenging tactical tiurn based modes.

BG games require a magicthegathering like counter the spell like
tactics..

anyway, if you're talkingabout classic crpg complexity, I'd say Wizardry
8/Wizards and Warriors/Might and Magic IX.  These 3 still have a complex
party dynamic to them.

And if you go a little farther, the Arkania series and Darklands were
pretty complex, but not completely innaccesible...Darklands... mmm such
a great concept.  or even SId's Pirates!

etc