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On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:26:50 +0100, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:

>Am 09.01.15 um 16:51 schrieb Rin Stowleigh:
>
>> Longer-term?  Who knows -- maybe we will all be using DisplayPort
>> Adaptive-Sync (for which "Project FreeSync" is connected to, but not
>> the same thing... Freesync is simply AMDs proprietary implementation
>> of DPAS).  There may come a day when both AMD and Nvidia card owners
>> use DPAS and it is built in to all monitors and TVs.  In the mean time
>> I'm not touching anything from AMD that starts with the word "Project"
>> with a ten foot pole.
>
>Actually from what I could gather, FreeSync is basically DP Adaptive 
>sync, with some logic in the drivers. On the hardware side nothing 
>proprietary is there.
>
>It apparently also is cheaper to implement than G-Sync. In the end 
>usually the cheaper more versatile solution will win out.

It is cheaper on paper for a monitor maker to implement because they
do not have to pay Nvidia's licensing fee, but they also do not get
Nvidia's support.  

Development teams over the years have talked about how superior Nvidia
is to work with when it comes to support, and this is why the have
trouble achieving the same quality levels when developing with AMD's
products.  That level of higher quality support will always come at a
cost, and NVidia has been eating into AMD's marketshare for a long
time now despite that higher cost, which would imply that gamers care
more about overall value (taking quality into consideration) than a
lower price tag.

If by some miracle AMD actually gets to a point where they can achieve
the same level of support for integrating vendors and overall software
quality, only then will Nvidia need to find ways to compete on cost.

>It also will depend on Intel which have about 70% of the graphics chip 
>market  due to their integrated graphics if this solution will win out 
>or not. But for the monitor manufacturers adding FreeSync / DP Adaptive 
>sync to a monitor is a no brainer GSYNC however needs some custom 
>hardware logic from NVidia which is rather expensive hence the steep 
>prices for G-Sync atm.

See above regarding cost.  Nvidia has always had a price point, yet
has still been eating AMD/ATIs lunch.

I can certainly see how Intel will go the way of DPAS (not the
Freesync implementation obviously, but their own), and I suspect that
may create challenges until DPAS matures.

In the long-term I can fully see us all using DPAS once it all gets
ironed out, but I can also see other potential wackiness looming. Just
as folks are convinced they need 4K displays on a monitor that's
sitting only a short distance from their face, in a few years we can
expect the industry to convince them they will need 8K or 12K or
whatever the latest and greatest thing is, and at that point the
current implementation of Display Port and everything tied to it will
probably become victims of planned obsolescense, and just as we see in
the case of g-sync, proprietary innovations tend to keep up with the
rapid change of technology pace better than open source solutions.

I hope we get to a point where all monitors just work with all video
cards without issues, I'm just not holding my breath for that day and
I'm glad to have g-sync now.